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Zucas said:
mrstickball said:
 

Okay then,

If you say your at fault for the issue, why are you posting here? Why aren't you spending your time helping in a homeless shelter instead of posting a rant on a message board to people that probably don't even understand the situation?

If you want to understand the problem and solution, a good place to start is usually.....Working with people that are in the problem you discribe to understand how their situations can actually be alievated. That is why I find your rant so hypocritical, you are essentially saying 'Why does humanity not help people when I don't even understand their situation, either?'.

As for me, I've done all the things I asked of you. That is why I know the good and bad sides to charity and helping the less fortunate. There is a reason that Johnstons 'great society' hasn't helped the poverty any more than when the government spent no money on poverty. When you work with those that are less fortunate, you do understand why some people are in such dire situations. You also see the great value in making a personal effort to helping people, as well, so as I said it has its good and bad sides.

Well I will give you credit for your efforts donated to helping othes.  I've helped out in the past as well but namely in donations to certain charities, salvation army, and of course countless food drives. 

But I'm curious why someone who has done that, has only thought so basic and linearly about it as to not really expand their analysis on the situation.  Why the refusal to give deep critical thought to the issue I've proposed despite having experience?  If the current existence of charity ahs good and bad sides, why not think of a way to make it only have good sides.  I'm always talking in ways where you find the root of the problem and you fix it and all subsequen things cease to matter.  Why sit their and accept a flawed system and act as if you've exhausted all scenarios when you can actually debate over here with me one that works. 

That's what I've been asking the entire time.  We know we live in this flawed world, even in the state of charity, yet we sit back and accept it.  That's what I'm asking.  Hopefully you finally understand what I'm saying.

When governments prevent propery charity to happen because they want to stay in power and want people to have no power you are left with three basic choices.

 

A) Remove the power.  Though not done for those reasons... see Iraq on the problems with this.

B) Cut off all charity so the people get angry and remove the people from power.  Of course this leads to all sorts of starvation.

C) Maintain the status quo.