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jammy2211 said:
NJ5 said:
jammy2211 said:

$15 and $10 are both valid estimates, it depends entirely on circumstance. I was more so just agree with his analysis of the costs of running a store, but if you need to argue like an idiot, use out of context quotes and just completely misinterpret what others say to try piece some sort of a rebutle, go ahead.

 If you actually care you can do a few googles, research how much it costs to run a store, understand that a $10-$15 dollar profit margin is pathetic when you consider the potential losses in selling these games and make try make some sort of a well educated and though-out argument. At the moment you're making replies about something you've clearly absolute no clue or idea about, probably just for the hell of it as you don't want to back track and admit your wrong.

 Nothing you've said yet has actually countered any of my arguments you just repeat the same 'BUT THEY SELL IT FOR MORE THEN THEY BUY IT' thing over and over 8-).

You are the one who hasn't understood my argument. It's very simple, I will spell it out for you:

1- There are (or at least were, before the Gamestop monopoly started buying all stores) many stores which only sell new games (along with accessories and consoles of course), before the used games mania came along. I noticed you're 20 years old so maybe you simply don't remember this pre-Gamestop period very well.

2- These stores were in business for years.

3- Hence, it's reasonable to conclude that this was a reasonable and profitable business model.

Until you have given a reason why this argument doesn't work, or doesn't work anymore (for example by showing some evidence that margins have decreased), you are going against reality.

Basically I'm out of this thread unless you convincingly disprove this argument.

 

My argument is that stores nowadays cannot operate without other forms of income other then just first hand sales. I don't need to look back in the history books as to why it might have been possible - as I know isn't in the current climate - and the simple fact no store is built on that business model now is testament to that.

 I cant honestly recall one store in the UK ever being based entirely on that business model - if anyone in here can name any then pleae do.

Earlier you mentioned the Spectrum ZX, is that the era you're refering to when you say stores used to only sell first hand games? Cause that is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too far back to compare to the industry as it is now. I obviously have limited to knowledge of back then but the way games / retail worked wasn't like it was once Nintendo entered the game.

In the Uk there used to be quite a lot of small shops out of the way which were indi games shops run by gamers, the only other way to get your games cassettes was in whsmiths. This would be back in the comm 64 days (as my fading memory serves)

 

Also, who trades games in these days? With e-bay you get the total games 2nd hand value to yourself and the market pays what the market pays not what secondhand games pirates pay.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups