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Zucas on 01 February 2010
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NKAJ said:
NJ5 said:
I don't have a problem with helping people, but I would expect them to help themselves.

When you have resource-starved countries where the population multiplies like rabbits and keeps destroying its environment, that makes it harder for me to care about helping. No matter how much I help, certain places are on a path to destruction and "helping" only delays the problem and makes it bigger.

Now there's already talk of taking Haitians off their island into other nations. They will most likely be a burden on society and government finances in the countries they move to (as if gov finances everywhere in the West aren't already strained enough).

BTW this comes from someone who often donates to charity. I just find it hard to justify going the extra mile to help societies destroy themselves and spread their problems to other places. We propagate like yeast and then don't want to suffer the consequences of this uncontrolled and unsustainable expansion.

Well said.I naturally feel for the people of the Haiti but just giving millions in aid is not going to solve the problem.We need to build up their whole society properly from the ground up so that they can sort themselves out.Unfourtunatly they are not really helping themselves by looting and stealing.

Well that's essentially what I'm saying.  The world shouldn't be on the bring of apocalypse to bring the best out in a person.  Or basically the worst should have to bring out the best in people.  Everyone needs a friend, and just knowing that you are there for them, is good enough to get anyone back on their feet.  The world needs to care as a planet, not as timely factions.  If that were the case, there wouldn't be a need to dump money everywhere to help those... they wouldn't need the help. 

Really, by not caring and helping those around the world, and by at most times using and abusing them, we put ourselves further in debt.  Fix the root of the problems rather than continuously paying off the aftermath of them.