so what if microsoft DIDN'T waste money... GTA dlc

[heruamon]

BMaker11 said:

heruamon said:

BMaker11 said:

heruamon said:
LOL...xbox gamers got the play Episodes from Liberty City a year earlier for Lost and 6 months for Gay Tony...the DLC and Retail sold over 3 million copies...M$ "LOANED" 2K the cash for this exclusivity...and M$ has been repaid and then some...I'm not getting how this was a waste? It probably cost Rockstar 2-3 million to develop the DLC, so they made out like bandits, so it's a win-win for everybody concerned...even PS3 only gamers who are getting it 12 months later. This is athe same as Fallout DLC...I guess that was a failure as well...lol...not in my book...and I have the achievements to show it!

Link please to where Microsoft or Take Two says it was a loan. I can link you to where the higher ups at Take Two say that it cost $25M per episode. You lose on both counts

Yup, I have not link on the specifics of the deal...so you can ontinue to believe that M$ paid $50 million to secure  exclusivity for 6 months.  At any rate...M$ EDD reported another $300 million plus quarter and hte fifth in hte row...so evidently, they are doing A-OK in the business department, and making the right calls.

Why is it that speculation (the $50M being a loan) is now being regarded as fact, especially when "it was a loan" came from absolutely nowhere? And the only facts that we do have are, conversely, being regarded as speculation. Here's the tangible facts that we know of. Take Two had a conference call. In it, some execs said "Microsoft gave us $50M. It's going to be about $25M per episode for GTAIV"......and you're trying to spin that to make me sound ignorant?

Yea, sure. You can continue to believe that loan speculation, which was generated PURELY by forum goers and never ONCE stated by MS or T2, is fact. I'll listen to what the guys at Take Two say. And I don't care about their earning this quarter. #1 They're MS....you know, the big multibillion dollar company that has like 95% of the computer marketshare. Have they ever posted in the red, the whole company, not just the games division (which, by the way, that $300M figure isn't just from games)? #2 The deal with Take Two was in early 2007. What relevance does that earnings report have here anyway?

Whether you call it loan or advanced them the money...what we are talking about here is standard business practices used in the entertianment industry.  Look at movies or music...you ADVANCE somebody money, if you are confident of sales figures, and you will recoup them on the other end...nothing amazing here, but what are suggesting is that M$ simply forked over $50 million for exclusivity...which is wrong, imho.