ils411 said:
marc said:
So I played Killzone 2 yesterday at my friends... thought I would post my thoughts here. Killzone 2 is an embarassement to the FPS genre and I dont even hold a high standard for fps's. Sorry but the game is almost unplayable due to controls and framerate which I believe are related in this case. The graphics... are horrible. Up close the textures are basically 5 year old technology. Crisis looks 100x better and that is older. The art style is cool but I simply wouldnt want to play it due to controls. It feels like im driving a tank not playing a FPS.
The game masks the textures with darkness, excessive shadowings and that horrid blur effect that degrades textures while moveing to keep framerates constant. If this is your case for best graphics then you are sorrily mistaken. My friend, the PS3 fan, also agrees and is not able to play the game because it gives him motion sickness because of how slow the character turns which we believe is done on purpose to keep the game from regressing to slide show. What we got from our analysis is that anyone can make a slideshows with high quality graphics but we have to question the wisdom in making a game practically unplayable in doing so.
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As for the PC price argument. Why are you guys spending so much for a mobo+cpu? An Athlon dual core 5000 and up is more than enough to play games like crysis on full. Your limiting factor is gpu not cpu. Futhermore, most mobos are just reference boards anyway, so no point in paying more than $50. Granted some manyfacturers use better electronic parts but in general I have had just as many problem with boards by Asus and Intel as I have had with ECS and Gigabyte.
Furthermore we are just trying to match the PS3 price not blow it out of the water.
MOBO+CPU = $79 = Phenom II 550 w/Gigbyte Mobo (overkill from Frys)
2 GB memory = $40 (pricewatch)
GPU = $60 = Radeon 3850 512mb ddr3 (pricewatch or amazon)
PS = $30-$35 = 600w (amazon)
Case = $20 = any cheapo will do
HD = $28 = 160GB (Pricewatch)
DVD = $10 (pricewatch)
Wireless KB+M = $20 (frys or pricewatch) I paid $5 for my set
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The cool part is those prices havent changed a whole lot since 4-5 years ago. You could have gotten an Athlon x2 with mobo for about the same price. The GPU was only about $100 back then. Memory hasnt changed much. The rest is the same.
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so, we're suppose to believe you and your fried vs the majority here who says that its got great graphics? and that its a good game? hmmm... i'll believe the majority thank you very much.
To your cheap pc claim, i've been trying to put together a decent pc for a month now and i've been canvasing everywhere for cheap parts and i still cant come up with with one that's less than or at least = $300. And that's even considering generic parts.
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Bro... i told you where to get them from in my post... Those prices are readily available, they are not even sale prices. You can actually do much better if you look for sales at Fry's and Amazon.
What there to believe? Have you played Killzone 2? Are you telling me that the blur effect shouldnt be counted against the game? What about the abysmal turn rate? What about the horrid textures on most inanimate objects once you are within a few feet of the object? I am sure someone will play them off as "features" but the proof is in the pudding. If you want to measure popularity then its obvious what the masses believed. KZ2 = 2.19m sold. Meanwhile games that were barely even advertised, with clearly lower res textures but much better framerates and movement sell more in less time.
Last 30 or so reviews at gamespot also show significant weakness in the score and echo exactly what I said. The game plays like driving a tank after drinking 8 litres of king cobra. Drawing pretty (low movement) images should not qualify a game for graphical awards especially when it clearly effects gameplay. Note: that I didnt say its a bad game, but people are actually hailing it as a graphical wonder on this board... the graphics are horrible when you are actually playing the game. The game itself may still be very good DESPITE its graphical and gameplay flaws.
