FF13 voted the best game of all time by Famitsu readers

[lestatdark]

Kenryoku_Maxis said:

lestatdark said:

Kenryoku_Maxis said:

lestatdark said:

Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Dragon Quest VIII
Final Fantasy XII
Dragon Quest IX
Final Fantasy XIII

They sure can't make up their mind. Until they do the 'best games ever' polls. Then you see nearly all Dragon Quest and Pokemon games in the top 20 with only one or two Final Fantasy games.

Dragon Quest games I can understand, but why Pokemon? Pokemon, as good as they are, aren't great games, certainly not better than most FF's like you suggest.

Your opinion of a Pokemon game aside, I was pointing out what tops Japanese polls like Famitsu time and again.  And the fact is, next to Dragon Quest, Pokemon is the next most popular game series in Japan.  And if you look closely, you'd see the similarities in Pokemon and Dragon Quest (battle engine, exploration, monster collection, etc).

Aren't you also questioning the opinion of the people who made this poll and using your own opinion by measuring best with most popular? There are similarities between DQ and Pokemon games, but if a factual best games ever poll was ever made, without counting only popularity, do you seriously expect a pokemon game to be there? If so, then explain me why, given a recent launch of a Pokemon game in Japan, it doesn't even appear on this list? 

Popularity =/= Better game 

If popularity =/= better game, then why is anyone making a big deal of these polls then?  And why are you working so hard to make sure Final Fantasy is looking more popular than Pokemon?

We can go rattling on about sales and polls all day.  In the end, it will come down to opinion.  Dragon Quest and Pokemon are the two best selling (and most will say popular) RPGs in Japan.  Final Fantasy XIII is popular right now for sure, cuz it just came out.  But if this was 4 months ago, Pokemon would have been on everyones mind and probably way high in the poll, because it just released.

That's the entire thing, I'm not working hard to make sure FF is looking more popular than pokemon. I strongly suggest you read my first comment on this thread, regarding the validity and timing of this poll.

I'm just saying that a factual poll of the best games of all time, won't be full of pokemon games in the top 20, nor will it be full of FF games, nor will it be full of DQ games.

Also you have still not answered my question. If pokemon is so popular, and it equals so much of a good game, then why isn't it on that list, when there are games there that came out much time before than the recent pokemon game? I can site a few good examples like SMT: Persona 4, MGS4, Yakuza 3, MHF:U, ToV. And this is considering out the FF games and the DQ game in that poll.