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Miguel_Zorro said:
Rath said:
@Zorro. Where is the evidence there are any dollar losses at all? As I have posted numerous times the studies on piracy have reached the conclusion that the cost to the industry is either statistically insignificant or in fact causes more copies to sell.

Music sales have declined for 10 consecutive years.  That's evidence.  Any study that I've seen that's stated otherwise has been so obviously flawed that I wonder if the researchers have ever taken a stats or research methods course in their life.  One of the studies that somebody posted here stated that "People who pirate a lot, also buy more music than the average person" - they then reached the conclusion Piracy *causes* more music sales.  I shouldn't have to explain how that's flawed.  Do the researchers really not understand the difference between causality and correlation?

You are also missing the link between causality and correlation. You have no proof at all that the decline of music sales is due to piracy. As I said if you can provide statistical evidence through a major study that piracy causes a loss in software sale then I'll listen with interest.

Also people who pirate do tend to buy more music, they also tend to diffuse information more. You really do have to explain how it is flawed to come to the conclusion that piracy causes higher sales. Its what the data definitely suggests.