In your honest opinion.. which company creates the best RPGs? [Poll]

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

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lestatdark said:

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Grey21 said:

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A list without Obsidian and/or Black Isle studios.

What greatness have they done of late? Black Isle is gone and before they were gone they made a few good IPs in the 90s but after 2000 they havent done anything interesting. Obsidian is just taking up projects that are bases good games from Bioware and Bethesda. The days of Fallout and Baldur's Gate are gone, only Bioware continued to deliver and Bethesda took second place.

What "greatness" did Bioware, Square or Bethsada make?

And by "greatness" I mean timeless classics like Planescape:Torment, a ten years old that pepole still talk about today with passion.

Planescape Torment is spoken with a passion by it's own fans, not by the general public, i'm one of them, it's the greatest WRPG ever created.

You can do a round list of both those companies and find at least one game spoken by it's fans with the same amount of passion.

Bioware = Baldur's Gate
Square = FFVI/DQV
Bethesda = Elder Scrolls: Morrowind 

Don't worry man, I know :P

I'm just pissed off that pepole treat the WRPG genre like it was invented with KotOR.

(And "Square" didn't make DQ5, Enix did)

I actually should've voted for Square too, since Squaresoft was my favorite company ever (Xenogears, Chrono Trigger/Cross, FF6,7,9 etc.) but I voted for "other" out of spite.

And the thing about fans, you can be damn sure that a decade from now, there will be more pepole who talk about PS:T than ME, KotOR and any of this generations "big WRPGs".

That's the thing though.  People talk about WRPGs like they're 'fresh and new' because to many gamers they are just that, new to WRPGs.  They grew up either never playing RPGs or only experienced RPGs like Final Fantasy.  And now there's a whole new breed of highly funded and highly advertised RPG, made from the west, and they're mesmorized (and highly advosarial towards JRPGs for reasons unknown).

As for what games people will be talking about in 10 years, that's unknown.  However, it has been 10 years and people are still talking about games like Diablo II, Morrowind and Dues EX.  But on the JRPG side, they are also still talking about Final Fantasy VII, Dragon Quest V, Pokemon (any) and Mario RPG.  Will these games really be forgotten in another 10 years?  I hardly think so.  If anything, this recent surge of WRPG love is most likely just a sign of exactly what I was talking about before.  WRPGs getting a lot more marketing and higher production values in the last 10 years.  JRPGs need to step up their game and meet the standards WRPGs have created in the west.  JRPGs are still doing good in terms of quantity, its the quality they're iffy on this generation.  Mostly because all the good JRPGs seem to be going to handhelds and the console JRPGs are hit and miss.  And regardless if there's a good JRPG, console or handheld, only a select few get any marketing.  And none on the level of say Mass Effect or Fallout 3.