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intro94 on 27 January 2010
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txrattlesnake said:
DnE said:

The problem with this is the idea that the demographic and gaming market on the wii is completely known and understood.

We know that there is casual friendly gaming group on the wii.
However we do not know if there is a hardcore, although indications are that there is.

And you cannot say anything without evidence and so here we go:

In almost every case a niche M game has been released it has outsold previous incarnations by the developer or games in similiar genre.
Example: Madworld, NMH

In the very limited case where a new IP was released on a similiar time frame with a smaller (but not too much) focus it sold compareably to the PS3.
Example: COD3, Force Unleashed

There have been no Established Franchise, Established genre games released on the wii from third parties. Nintendos games have been selling very well in their established franchises.

None of this proves a more classic gaming market on the wii, but does have indications that such a market can exist if it is nurtured.

 

     I think calling every game that is an M game with higher ratings than many of the other top sellers on Wii is released and it fails to reach a million that saying that it failed to sell well because it is just a niche game is simply an excuse.  What about similar niche games that have hit a million on 360 and PS3?  The Crackdown, Left 4 Dead, and Saint's Row are just three examples of new ips in mature categories that have topped a million on 360 and PS3.  What makes them any less niche than MW or NMH?

 

Now, it might be the Wii games are niche because the Wii only has a niche market for M type cinematic games.  I think that is more likely than games like NMH are just niche games.

 

There have been attempts by bigger publishers and none of them have hit 2 million including the exclusive RE: game Dark Chronicle (I think that's the title), Red Steel, and Nintendo's own Metroid Prime games.

you are doing it so wrong. Is really hilarious to think Saints Row is similar to NMH. Second, there IS a game similar to NMH in the PS3, called "AFRO samurai"(surprise, you own a ps3 and havent heard of it...). GO check how great it did, please. The closes PS3 got, sold less than the wii game.  Im not going as far as saying L4D or Crackdown would sell more on the wii, but then again those are mass market games of wide appeals. in niche games, is however exactly the same. im not saying neither that crackdown or l4d wouldnt pull satisfying figures. New ip is a good thing, if its good, not a spin off like your example.Seriously..Is like comparing Mass effect to being a light gun game. Red steel lacks online, a feature that increases sales wildly and is present in most of the games you mentioned, AND IS A MUST IN FPS. Is not the best game neither.Hell red steel is bad.Theres no excuse for metroid prime tho.But the game rarely sold 2 millions on the gamecube.The franchise was never that huge to begin with.I think that nintendo never expected 2 millions from THAT game. But NOA expects that the following Metroid to sell much better.Why?well i guess they know the presentation and advertisement push, as well as genre will pull more gamers than retro efforts.