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DnE on 27 January 2010
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txrattlesnake said:
DnE said:

The problem with this is the idea that the demographic and gaming market on the wii is completely known and understood.

We know that there is casual friendly gaming group on the wii.
However we do not know if there is a hardcore, although indications are that there is.

And you cannot say anything without evidence and so here we go:

In almost every case a niche M game has been released it has outsold previous incarnations by the developer or games in similiar genre.
Example: Madworld, NMH

In the very limited case where a new IP was released on a similiar time frame with a smaller (but not too much) focus it sold compareably to the PS3.
Example: COD3, Force Unleashed

There have been no Established Franchise, Established genre games released on the wii from third parties. Nintendos games have been selling very well in their established franchises.

None of this proves a more classic gaming market on the wii, but does have indications that such a market can exist if it is nurtured.

 

     I think calling every game that is an M game with higher ratings than many of the other top sellers on Wii is released and it fails to reach a million that saying that it failed to sell well because it is just a niche game is simply an excuse.  What about similar niche games that have hit a million on 360 and PS3?  The Crackdown, Left 4 Dead, and Saint's Row are just three examples of new ips in mature categories that have topped a million on 360 and PS3.  What makes them any less niche than MW or NMH?

 

Now, it might be the Wii games are niche because the Wii only has a niche market for M type cinematic games.  I think that is more likely than games like NMH are just niche games.

 

There have been attempts by bigger publishers and none of them have hit 2 million including the exclusive RE: game Dark Chronicle (I think that's the title), Red Steel, and Nintendo's own Metroid Prime games.

Seferoth75 second paragraph exactly answers it: All 3 examples you gave are not niche. Look at sales in competitive areas while competition for NMH is Killer 7 and Madworld is GodHand.

There have been no attempts in established IP and established genres by third parties which is what is missing to make the statement that there is no market.