Why wouldn't Microsoft want to release "Xbox 720" one year before the PS4?

[Netyaroze]

Twistedpixel said:

Netyaroze said:

@twistedpixel

1.Yes Everyone is working on a new system.

Sony also, I think they will be prepared to release it as soon as MS so the same thing cant happen again.

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Maybe they will have 2 consoles at the same time but I dont think this will happen and the reason is quite simple. Only ONE last gen console was strong enough to last long enough to be in the next gen. But I dont think the market is strong enough to carry PS3 Xbox360 Wii and PS4 Xbox720 and WII 2 at the same time. I dont see that happening sorry. To keep a console at life so long in the next gen was achieved just by Sony but maybe this Time it will be Nintendo because they are marketleader and the nature of their customers which dont care about graphics so at best I see Wii living long into next gen. But the 360 is already at 159k I dont see it living another 5 years.

3. The Xbox360 wont live as long as the PS2 the PS2 is the best selling console the Xbox not. Infact I see it living until 2012 but not longer. And then both or maybe een all three will release new consoles.

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ofcourse I am guessing their motivations because they dont tell you their real intentions. Everyone has to guess. I cant see an Xbox before 2012 the reasons I wrote are perfectly fine.

5.

They made their money back ? Lol maybe but thats not the point they dont want to sell it they want to dominate the market and spread their standards. But that would be considered as a failure and thats not what the Shareholders wanted to see. They invested money Billions. years ago so if they sell their gaming devision what exactly they will sell. The Name ? Or what ? Infact you have to be a giant company to keep this thing running not everyone could buy the Xbox Games Devision and what are the assets. Its mostly the name plus the rights to software titles and devellopers. Considering the inflation it would be a bad deal. And MS wouldnt do that ever.



But what exactly is your point ?

What do you want to say ?

That the Xbox 720 is coming next year ? Or that the Xbox willbe released before the PS4 ?

You are just guessing like I am so what exactly want you to discuss ?

You just want to tell me that there is another point of view or that my opinion is wrong ?

1. Working on a new system yes, but thats only in terms of interface/software and basic design. The actual hardware has to be defined more than two years prior to release, which is why rumours about next generation hardware come out between 2.5 and 3 years before release. If a console maker gets surprised it would take two years for them to respond to a successful console launch.

2. The emerging markets of the 2nd/3rd world will keep the present consoles afloat for at least another 5 years. If only to win these markets a current generation console will tend to linger on. If theres a fairly substantial price difference they can keep both in the market at the same time. If say the console launches for $299 $399, they can keep a $100-$150 Xbox 360 on the market to satisfy the lower end. Microsoft is no stranger to offering multiple generations of Windows for sale for example.

3. It depends on how they use it after the release of the next Xbox. Even if it doesn't last 12 years it'll probably make it to 9/10 years no problem because the system is just incredibly cheap and can support quantities of flash in place of a mechanical HDD and the games are small so advances in distigital distribution can keep it going.

4. Without knowing what their intentions are you cannot predict their direction.

5. Profit is defined as measureable and realisable. If they could sell the division and make back more than they have lost then by any accounting text book they have made a profit even if they don't realise these gains, they've still made an asset by any definition. If they've met this definition then anything since that point has been pure profit from their investment.

I just felt like arguing, this is a forum after all.

 

1. Agree. I think Sony lost some of its arrogance due to Xbox success. Thats why they dont will rely on their name again and I think they wont be surprised by MS again.

 

2. Emerging markets will play a role but I think they arent ready yet. maybe next gen or the gen after the financial stability and overall wealth in those nations is not equally spread thats why piracy is a big issue.  95% of the market are Europe Japan NA yet.

3. We will see Natal can prolonger the life eventually. But I still have doubts that Xbox will live as long as PS1 or PS2 in the next generation. 

4. I give my best opinion based on my logic I can try to predict their actions, ofcourse I would never say this is going to happen I just want to   explain why I believe this will happen. It could go either way ofcourse.

 

5. They would profit in the end just like Sony if they would sell  SCE. I read some articles about the possible intentions of MS wich was to spread their standards like DirectX and Control the living room of people.l I think thats their primary goal if they would sell the Game devision they wouldnt make a loss but they would still lose. 

 

ofcourse I like also to argue thats why I am here just wanted to understand your intentions