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Lord Flashheart said:
Mazty said:

Well what does Natal offer that the eyetoy doesn't? Both have depth detection etc.
Yeah I made a mistake that Alan Wake is going to be on PC  as I missed the news that it wasn't. Doesn't change much of that list.
EA say the 360 CPU is maxed out: http://www.edge-online.com/news/we%E2%80%99ve-%E2%80%9Cmaxed-out%E2%80%9D-xbox-360-says-ea-games-vp
DVDs are causing problems:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169963
And note that the reason devs don't do as many DVDs are required is because of the production cost. Same game price of £39.99, yet more discs, so less profit.

The CPU is using essentially an off spin of the PPE of the Cell. That is it. It is missing the important part of the Cell - the SPUs. I actually said the GPU in the 360 is stronger - because it is, as its has 48 unified pipelines, whereas the PS3 only has 32 designated pipelines. However, the Cell acts as a GPU as well and has been used by both Naughty Dog and the GoW3 devs to apply effects such as field of depth, motion blur, MSAA etc. The GPU in the 360 can hardly be called 'far' superior - the figures just aren't there, nor are the results.

What game doesn't need AA?!?! That's like saying a game doesn't need lighting. Or colour.

No AA? I said it looks too low as someone on this thread said it's only 2x, and 2x may as well be none. Got any figures?Bullshots...uhuh. Sure. Why no shots from prologue? Generally because of the 3 year gap that's widening between Prologue and the actual game. If you think the graphics haven't been improved in over three years, oh dear.

What in game shots?!?!?!?!?! The game hasn't been released! Duh, stop asking for something which cant happen.
I've seen high quality youtube vids of ME2 (Gamespot HD) and the game looks good, but the graphics don't look outstanding. And again, if you expect "best grafics EVOR" on a non-exclusive title, you need to learn how consoles work.

So depth sensing on the eyetoy is the same? Wrong.

EA say it but others dont.
http://www.gamegrep.com/news/21779-xbox_360_and_ps3_not_maxed_out_so_says_criterion_games/
http://www.gamesthirst.com/2010/01/05/who-said-xbox-360-is-maxed-out-nothing-but-fallacies/
http://www.destructoid.com/forza-devs-reckon-xbox-360-is-not-maxed-out-yet-150240.phtml


EA might have maxed it out but then the old Sony fanboy addage of 'Lazy devs' come into play when other devs throwing out higher quality games are saying different;y. But you fixate on the one quote to make yourself feel better. Ignore the others

It's not a spin off but is using ideas from it. It doesn't need SPU's because it's not desginged that way. Teh cell needs them because it is designed that way. You said the 360 gpu is slightly stronger and the cpu was far weaker. Wrong and that's you marginalising anything that doesn't favour the PS3.. The 360 GPU is far stronger and not just because of the pipelines. The entire card was designed from the ground up soley for the 360 and as for pure grunt outperforms the ps3s 7600.
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=19237 one example.

"By using custom designed hardware, the Xbox 360 will have a GPU with some technology that might not be available in its entirety until late 2006; that is one year after the Xbox 360 has shipped."

http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1145/The-Xbox-360-Dissected/p5/
So not released with "Dated tech" as you keep proclaiming.

It's good that the PS3 gpu can offset graphics to teh cell because it needs to. A bad design. Should NEED to? no This stops the cell from performing other tasks and stops games looking even more incredible.

2x doesn't mean it should be gone? it can smarted up the appearance a lot. What world are you living on that you would say 'well it's only x amount lets not bother' If you are too scared to show ingame shots from prologue yet think you can show promotional shots from gt5 and tell me to wait until its released but wont do the same for ME2 then oh dear.

Prologue has been released and if you are too scared to show shots from it or the recent demo it can be for only one reason. They don't match up to the shot you produced and you know it. I should hope the graphics have improved in 3 years. They need to to match up to the promotional shot you showed us.
Also why can't a non-eclusive have "teh best grafiks eva"? Unlikely but not impossible?

This isn't to say that the ps3 sucks or gt5 looks crap this is because you keep putting the 360 down with nonsense and posting bullshots to make ME2 look bad. Which is doesn't but you will keep saying it does.

uh.... the 360 GPU seems stronger is because of the pipelines if you pay close attention to the link you posted, the unified shader is a much more efficient design. They are actually not that far apart if you just talk about raw performance, but the more advanced pipeline design gives the 360 a higher edge in shader capabilities. The triangle part is pretty much just whore shit that doesn't matter much these days.