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hmmmm......... funny how both ps3 and 360 fanboys bash the hell out of the wii for being to casual due to motion sensing, but when they get their own motion sensing controller its not a casual gimmick? but the ps360 fanboys excuse is "but teh natalz and ps wandz hardcore" oh really?

so waving my arms infront of a camera with no controller talking to a 12 year old boy or waving a black dildo is hardcore?