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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
It's interesting, if only because there really aren't many credible gun studies out there.... They have 2 big ones and they're both stupid.


The first, that says guns cause crime, doesn't consider you stopping a crime unless your shot at, or stabbed or something. So if someone came at you with a knife, or pulled out a gun on you it wouldn't be considered stopping a crime.

The second, counted stopping a crime anytime you felt threatened, so if you pulled a gun on someone who randomly came up on you in the ally no matter why he was walking up to you.


So basically both studies were done by other sides of the debate?

Pretty much.

The second one has slightly more validity, i'd say, since it's only problem is REALLY paranoid people. 

Vs the second study who's method is really quite insane.  (We're supposed to assume someone charging with a knife is coming in for a hug?)

but both are pretty crappy.

Those are the two big studies debated in Academia though.

 

There are very few gun studies that are legitamite so even amatuer stats work done with available numbers is helpful. (no offense stick.)


To be fair, it's even tough to do a study like that in the USA just because of how different every state is.