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Rath said:
KingFate said:
In my opinion guns should never be illegal. It will only give criminals an even bigger advantage over the average guy/girl. It will mean a criminal can rape/kill/rob people withe even greater ease. If everyone had the same gun it would be like nobody had a gun.

This is also coming from someone who has had close family members be victims. So I will admit it changed my view on it. If my sister had a weapon to defend herself she might have not have gotten raped years ago.

That is the most illogical statement of the year so far. If everybody has a gun people are going to end up being shot, if nobody has a gun then nobody ends up getting shot.

Registration and restriction of guns in countries often correlates to the amount of gun deaths in a country.

 

 

@MrStick. From the OP I kind of got that he wasn't talking about home invasion, he was talking about the massacres that are all too common these days. People going on shooting sprees in malls, schools, army bases.

 

But your chart doesn't say anything about the actual event of crime and the correlation of gun ownership to it. Your chart makes as much sense as a chart showing that more cars in a country = more auto accidents.

The fact is that more firearms per capita is correlated with less overall crime. Does it matter if guns are used more in crimes if less crimes are comitted overall?

How about this chart that shows overall gun deaths per country, per capita?

In 'high' areas, there are severe firearm restrictions:

  • Mexico - 15.0 guns per capita. Heavy restrictions on anything military-calibre
  • Brazil - 8.8 guns per capita. Requires registering of firearms, owners only above 25 y/o
  • Russia - 9.0 guns per capita. Heavy regulations on guns, and many types of bans

And so on.

Oh, and you have the UK gun ban:

Interesting that the UK homicides are either stagnant or up since the ban, and injuries are way up.

 

Ultimately, if you want to restrict firearm usage, you need better education and employment. Unemployment and a higher GINI coefficent are far better predictors of violent crime, firearms or not, than if a country bans or severely regulates firearms. As Nordlead has said, criminals prey on weak and defenseless targets....No better place than schools and malls which have concealed carry bans.

Interestingly enough, we have two bank branches where I live. One branch banned concealed carry firearms, and the other promotes the fact that they allow concealed carry. Guess which branches never have been robbed? Guess which one has been robbed multiple times since their policy went into effect?



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