coolbeans said:
steverhcp02 said:
coolbeans said:
steverhcp02 said:
ioi said:
The whole inflation works both ways. Movies like "Gone With the Wind" had far less competition than movies do these days, also re-releases obviously add to tickets sales and so on. Also, DVD, Video, Pirating is much more common these days as are other forms of entertainment (videogames for example) which could be seen as being in competition with movies.
So yes, larger population today, vastly inflated ticket prices vs 1939 or whatever, 3D movies selling at a premium, hype etc - but that doesn't take away from Avatar in my opinion. It has a good shot at $700m uninflated in the US, and well over $2b worldwide - this would easily put it in the top 10-15 movies of alltime in the US and probably top 5 worldwide. And that is without any re-releases.
What impresses me most is that Cameron has two films around $2b (like I say, Avatar could get close to $2.5b before it is finished) while no other film has managed to pass $1.2b. To beat your peers so effortlessly with both Titanic (which doubled any other film at the time) and Avatar (which will double every other film bar Titanic) is an impressive achievement.
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I was just going to post this. Times change in more ways than inflation. In my opinion, the inflation is offset by a rental industry, people waiting to see it for cheap in their housholds. TV shows, other forms of entertainment, pirating, obvious other expenditures like college, autos, videogames....not to mention things like restraunts, night life and less of an emphasis on "theaters" as the premiere form of entertainment as was such in the past.
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Can that really be contemplated the same way when it comes to major blockbuster movies that we've seen in the past? Some of the forms of entertainment you've just listed (and pirating) can't exactly be pirated or adapted in 3-D like Avatar was headlined for. Plus, when you see some of those major blockbusters, the other forms of entertainment or people holding out to see it later become more dwindled when it gets covered with hype and great reception (being that "must-see in theaters that's sometimes touted").
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Yeah i agree its hard to measure thats hwy i said imo. But i also dont think someone can say adjusted is the only way or the highway either. Theres no science to comparing eras but in my opinion gross for any era is comparable to the era and since eras change so do a lot of things so it leads me to believe all the factors and things that compete with our dollars, like the need for education, medical bills etc. could very well outweigh the inflation increase.
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Yes it was a good point to be brought up by ioi and your added input into that. To each his own though, while there are more factors to consider when it comes to the more ways of how you can see movies, I just see the arguement more in favor of the inflation point of view when it comes to these types of major blockbusters.
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And to be honest i really cant argue against it, its like when espn compares athletes of different generations, its fun but in the end pointlesssince we never get head to heads its just fun to speculate about it all.
