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My friend refused to get the Conduit because it wasn't 4 player. I thought the Grinder would change that like they said it would. I don't see how so many years after goldeneye nobody is doing it anymore for wii. As people have said this could be lost in translation, but without 4 player multiplayer I can't say I'm interested until it drops to $12 like the Conduit did. (I bought it at $50 but should have waited)