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RageBot on 19 January 2010
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Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
That's my point!
There's nothing really "special" about it, just like there's nothing special about Mario games, Just like Blizzard games, it's that the gameplay is highly polished and refined, that's exactly my point.
Pokemon is the same, but with a very important "multiplayer" component

And in the west, we sure don't like Story to the same level that the Japanese do, look at the sales ofstory focused games here.

A game's gameplay doesn't need to be special in order to be good.

If there's nothing special about the gameplay, why would people buy those games because of the gameplay? 

Multiplayer has nothing to do with gameplay, it's just a feature and "highly polished and refined" doesn't really explain nothing about what this gameplay is.

Mario had a lot of unique ideas for a 2D platformer, so yes, there are a lot of special things in Mario.

And look at the sales of story focused games in Japan.

Yes, but what makes the gameplay in DQ/FF/Pokémon (the first games) so good?

 

 

"since a story really can't be both deep and complex"
I strongly disagree. A deep story can also be a complex story. Final Fantasy VI has a deep and complex storyline, Final Fantasy VII too. Complex and deep are 2 words that can coexist in a single game. 
Also, deepness has nothing to do with simplicity.

"since a story really can't be both deep and complex"

I strongly disagree. A deep story can also be a complex story. Final Fantasy VI has a deep and complex storyline, Final Fantasy VII too. Complex and deep are 2 words that can coexist in a single game. 

Also, deepness has nothing to do with simplicity.

Because they were the first of their kind with the same gameplay, and than as time progressed the gameplay got more and more refined, the decline with FF sales is, in my opinion, because a lot of pepole just got fed up with the gameplay.

Tell this to Wii Sports, MW2 and NSMBW lol! Having multiplayer (local one) enhances the gaming experience.

After the first Mario, it didn't keep selling because of innovation, but because of refinement of gameplay.

 

And there is nothing deep about FF6 and 7's plot, not deeper than Xenogears lol.



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