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Rubang B said:

Ickalanda said:
As long as a socialist or communist doesn't get elected I'm good. I really would rather a Republican candidate win this though because I don't want Hilary or Obama as president. Hilary wants socialized health care which is a form of socialism and only worsens the quality of hospitals in a country because not as many people want to be a doctor since their pay is not as good as in the current system.

Also I support war and think that it is a good option in some situations and whatever you believe about Iraq leaving now would not be a good idea.

 

 How do you just... support war?  What does that even mean?  That's like saying you support rape or something.

You sir, are not thinking your statement through at all, and I personally take offense to your comment as a supporter of our efforts in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Your statement equating supporting the war effort (not liking war in general) to supporting rape is blatent ignorance. War sucks, I hate it, but sometimes it's necessary. For example, if we never went to war at all (as the purely anti-war [sheep] people want) the US would have just rolled over to Nazi Germany, we'd live under an evil dictatorship, and there would be no more Jews. We would have left Afghanistan alone after Osama attacked our nation and Afghanistan wouldn't give him up. This would have resulted in many more terrorist attacks around the world. Saddam would still be in power, defying the UN as he had for so many years.

Whether you support the reasons for going to war in Iraq or not, the point is that leaving now would be a disaster. We have to stay until the job is done, we can't just leave and create a vacuum. That would result in HUGE civilian deaths and chaos just like the millions killed after we left Vietnam. We don't like war, and don't let the morons on the far left convince you of that, we just think that in the world we live in (where evil does exist) war, regrettably, is sometimes necessary.

I wish just as much as you that we could live in a world without war or violence, but I also recognize that it's not possible (AKA, I live in reality). In the same way that Police who can use force are necessary to keep a relatively few ill intentioned citizens from destroying a nation, wars are also necessary to defend against tyrrany and opression. Without police having the ability to use force, criminals would take the opportunity to run the streets. Without the use of force against attack and real threats, peace loving, free countries would be destroyed by dictatorships that want to expand their power. If you'd read a history book you would see that.

Stop being so naive.