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Ah i get what you mean, so basiclly Dirge and X-2 are sequels in story but not in battle system?

Well to be honest, the story is what really matters, not the gameplay when it comes to a sequel, which is why i deem dirge and X-2 sequels over spin-off's.

However yes, Crystal Bearers, Versus XIII, Agito XIII and what not are not related to there main older cousins, making them spin off's, though that doesn't mean storyline nor gameplay well be any lesser to the likes of the numbered final fantasies, for example, i enjoyed dirge of cerberous more then i enjoyed both X, and X-2, and most normal based final fantasies.

Just pointing that out.