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Rpruett said:

I think that the argument that Nintendo 'invented' ______ or 'introduced' ______ is just a cop out argument. It's acting as if Nintendo had Einstein moments that no one would have discovered at any point down the road. Which is abundantly false IMO.

Can you elaborate on this?

Many of their innovations were not even close to being obvious. This is unlike, say, the cartridge to disc media switch that the Playstation made. You've gotta wonder:

Would we have had the D-pad standard? Joysticks were the norm.
Rumble feedback on controllers?
A microphone on a handheld?
The Wii remote? Even after seeing it, nobody thought this would work.

They're like the only gaming company with such lasting "discoveries." I find it hard to believe all of this makes for a mere cop out argument.

In fact, that's not a bad name for these - "Einstein moments" indeed. Who is to say there would not have been someone to replace Einstein, had he not been born? You can downplay his achievements in much the same way.

edit: Saw this part:

It has absolutely nothing to do with the company of Nintendo merely the people working for Nintendo generating ideas. You don't think these people would land elsewhere?

But, uh, when talking about Nintendo, aren't we talking about the people working for Nintendo? Why even bother discussing this if we assume the brains of Nintendo don't even stay in the company?