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Kasz216 said:
Masakari said:
I'm not saying Mario is bad or anything. When they truly take the character and make a new game from it (Like Galaxy, and not like Mario Party 700 or a new remake of SMB), it's great! It's just that it's usually completely blown out of proportion to be the best thing ever since humans invented the wheel lol.

For me, games are art, they can be about much more than just "fun", and we're in 2010, "just fun" doesn't cut it anymore, we need to evolve past that to be recognized as an art form - like some games try (Heavy Rain and most Quantic Dream games, Mass Effect saga, Deus Ex, Flower, Braid, etc).

You're looking in the wrong direction for "art form".

Games won't become an art form by trying to copy movies.  No successful art form ever has.

BTW just to illustrate... IIRC so called Pure Film Movement existed in Japan some time in 1910s - early 1920s that proclaimed cinema a modern art form, that far outpaced potential of traditional japanese theatrical play (whatever it's called). Actually if we look at films made at the time even outside of Japan, it's pretty clear, that it was common trend for the whole cinematography, though maybe not shaped in form of 'movement' everywhere. How long it took? About twenty years from first commercial use of cinematography before participants of new entertainment industry and artists acknowledged that new art form has bigger potential than just being plays recorded on a film stock.

The funny thing is... in gaming the more movie-like game you've made, the more artistic you're. Almost 40 years has passed and community still has no clue what this 'new art form' is about?