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akuseru on 16 January 2010
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milkyjoe said:
akuseru said:

And how big is the userbase of the Wii compared to the GC? GC sold 21.74m worldwide, the Wii has sold 65m worldwide to this date. So the Wii userbase is 3 times bigger NOW (and continuing) than GC's userbase ever was. So of course there are more people out there to buy your games. Viewtiful Joe could've have 3x its sales if it had been released on the Wii right now. There are NO excuses for the lack of quality 3rd party games being sold on the Wii. imho, no excuse.

It seems the majority of Wii-owners only want "kiddy games", party games and QUALITY 1st party titles. All quality 3rd party efforts (quality for me) has failed miserably imo (No more heroes, Muramasa, Little Kings Story, A Boy and His Blob, Silent Hill: SM (fairly new game though), Okami, Zack & Wiki, Madworld, etc)... I am not bashing the Wii here, because it got a bunch of quality 1st AND 3rd party games, but to me it seems the majority of Wii owners just don't buy too many different games. They got their MAJOR SELLING 1st party titles, but compared to consoles sold, they should be selling a lot more games overall, no? Or am I just very wrong here? What is the attach rate on the Wii? Don't misunderstand, the Wii sells software alright, but it seems it only sells "those few top-sellers" if you understand what I'm saying.

edit: found the tie ratios and all, no prob. I really have to give it to 360 gamers. You guys buy A LOT of games!! Amazing! PS3 users: Shame on you, buy more games!

How do you explain the GC versions of Viewtiful Joe outselling the PS2 versions then, if userbase size is all that matters?

Same goes for Okami, the Wii version beats the PS2 version with half the userbase.

But no, it's just the Wii that has this problem...

I never said that. I'm not even gonna bother with people like you... Have a nice life...

But I could give you some pointers: First of all, it was released 1 year later on PS2. The game also had MANY other games on PS2 to compete with, how big is/was the GC's library compared to PS2's again? The PS2 had "thousands" of games to choose from. How many did the GC have, a couple of hundred? Now where did I say userbase was the only thing that matters? However, userbase certainly do matter when (quality/a certain genre/niche) games are few on a console. Since Madworld is one of the FEW games on the Wii that appeal to its market (if not the only, No More Heroes maybe), there are a higher chance that more people would buy this ONE game than if the game had "40 different competitors" on the same platform (read: Viewtiful Joe on PS2). Maybe GC didn't have many games like Viewtiful Joe, I don't know (but I think it's a rather one-of-a-kind game), because I'm not going to spend my time looking for the games. You can do it if you want, be my guest.

Where do you get your numbers from anyways? VGChartz have no numbers on Viewtiful Joe PS2 version and GC version is only tracked for Japan. As for Okami, PS2 version is only tracked in Japan and Wii numbers lack tracking of Others... Please tell me, I would love to know.

Ooops, guess I did bothered answering you... Damn... Waste of time, waste of life spent...