Third Party Devs have made up their minds about the Wii.

[Netyaroze]

Why some people always claim that HD Consoles generate the loss for 3rd party developers. Why are they focusing on the HD consoles if its such a bad buisness.

It seems like a myth not reality. has someone actually NUMBERS or anything else to support this claim ? Numbers which show that its HD console development which is the reason for this.

Why are the developers losing money on HD games but despite that focusing on HD consoles ? And they seem to be satisfied with the sales of the HD games. 3rd party games are peforming 2-3-5-10 times better on HD consoles but the 3rd party developers are domed anyway?

HD development is getting cheaper and cheaper. most of the costs are fix costs. Why do some people actually think they know better then the whole industry what is good for them and what not.

I wonder why the companys are so dumb that they cant see such obvious things, if someone in the internet with lesser informations can see, that they are wandering in to the abyss.


What exactly will happen with the 3rd party developers now are they going bankrupt ?

have they listed the reasons why they are in red ?

I would really be thankful if someone could list me how much the various games costed and which titels didnt break even on HD consoles ? Because I cant find the informations.

I made some reasearch to this theme because nobody questions that. Maybe I am wrong but If someone says I am wrong I want to know why.

Why costed crysis just 20 Million ? Wouldnt such a game break even with 750k-1000k sold ?


I list just a few high quality games

Uncharted 2-----20 Million
Kz2----------------25 Million

I actually read that Hd games cost between 20-30 Million Dollar and games like MW2 or Gt5 50-60 Million Dollar. GTA4 was 100 Million but I bet it could be made cheaper.

Wii games instead cost 5-10 million Dollar. Nintendo games definetly more. And dont forget synergic effects if you make multiplatform games I think porting a title is way cheaper.

I believe 3rd party developers just dont know how to make money with the wii. thats all. They tried it and they failed. Just look at the list which was posted earlier. A lot of 3rd party games do well on HD consoles good enough to justify the expense. And this expenses can be even lowered with Mulgtiplatform developing. A game would cost maybe 30-40 million for BOTH consoles. 15 Mln each. And a similar game on WII would have to be exclusive and be made from the scratch. You cant port a game from HD consoles to Wii because you have to change EVERYTHING textures engine Physics polygon models etc..

Thats why they develop for both consoles and exclusives are rare for a little more money they have two versions plus they have a bigger audience.



They are not able to make more money on the Wii its not the fault of Nintendo. They would definetly do something if they could they dont hate nintendo they make everything to earn money.

games for 50-60 Million Dollar are games which sell mostly 4-15 Million Units. Such games would quadruple wii costs. But they will definetly regain the money.



http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_costs

This link explains a lot make your own calculations.


Multiplatform development and the similaritys of both platforms is the reason why the developers are satsified with HD Software sales more so in the future.

I just want to add:

"It took $5 to $10 million to develop a PS2 game versus $800,000 to $1.7 million for the original PlayStation."

"Games for Xbox 360 and PS3 cost between USD 20 million and USD 30 million to make.[9]"




Every generation costs more money the jump in costs was higher between PS and PS2 then between PS2 and PS3.

The high costs have a nice sideeffect the developers just try to give their best to make an HD title.

If HD development would be really as bad as some people make it the developers would all turn to the wii or spend less money for the development. As you can they are not desperate. Is always that some of them have problems and maybe they all have red numbers because they had to spend money for new technologies and into the education of their employees.

Every sane person would stop making a game if he would knew that he will lose a lot of money. And especially if he experienced it all the time or atleast he would talk about it but nothing happens.