Halo Reach or Gran Turismo 5 which sells more if launched for the holiday??

[iWarMachine]

De85 said:

iWarMachine said:

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my piracy argument is not about GT3 losing sales or the Ps3 not being pirated yet, the piracy on ps2 made the franchise grow, because a lot more people had a chance to play the game even if they didn't like the racing sims.

with bundling and advertising campaign it could do easily 100k per week just like halo 3.

the halo 3 advertising campaing was one of the biggest...and we're saying that we will see another campaing like that for another spin-off in the series? ( c'mon if the game would be a sequel, then it would be called Halo 4...and even if the game it's a real sequel, only us the gamers knows about it and most of the halo userbase it's not a gamer community, this never happened in ANY 10M seller game...that's my point of view. ) and, no the 70% stuff is not bullshit...Halo:Combat Evolved sold 6M LTD with a great advertise campaign, the Halo 2 campaing was even bigger, and sold 8M LTD...now Halo 3 had the biggest advertising campaign ever and it sold 10M...there's 4-6M people that bought the game just for the advertising campaign, again, maybe i'm being ignorant, but this is my point of view.

Halo:Odst is not the best example but it's the last sequel to the series, the game is selling pretty well but not the Halo 3 amount, i can see a decline in sales because it's a spin-off, people know this because there's not a 4 in the cover...

Gran Turismo struggled to sell over 10M copies because when it launched, the next-gen was already here, and the piracy in the ps2 was HUGE.

why do i think natal will take most of the money? because i don't think microsoft will do 2 advertise campaigns of the same size as halo 3, That's a LOT of money for a game division...

You don't actually know anything about Halo, do you?

1st bolded: Reach is not a spinoff and it is not a sequel.  It is a prequel.  This has been known since the very first reveal trailer.  MS will make sure everyone knows this through ads. 

2nd bolded: Right, because none of the increase in sales could possibly be because people enjoyed the previous games, everyone knows Halo is teh suck. /sarcasm  If the only reason it sold so well is because of the advertising, tell me why, even more than 2 years after launch, it is still selling?  I don't know about where you are, but I haven't seen a Halo 3 ad on my tv in quite some time.

3rd bolded: Why the hell wouldn't they?  If there's one thing MS has done very well this gen it's advertise.  Also, I don't know if you've heard, but MS has LOTS of money.  They can afford more than one media campaign at a time.

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there you go.

 

2nd bolded: people enjoyed the previous games that's why halo 2 sold 6M+...because the Halo 1 userbase bought the 2nd one...halo 3 it's selling 2 years after launch because it's being bundle + best selling game on console + best franchise in 360 ( if you buy a 360, then you should buy halo 3...)

3rd bolded: do you know how much money is that? if MW2 had a 300M campaign...then Halo 3 numbers + natal could be easily a Billion!