Sega thinks Nintendo should help with mature content on Wii.

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I agree with Sega, Nintendo needs to start making a few mature games. I know Nintendo likes their family friendly image but they are never going to get 13-18 year old males buying their consoles if they have no hardcore/mature (whatever you want to call it) games. This is actually one of the two things keeping me from buying a Wii (the other being my budget).

Hate to break it to you, but have you looked at the sales of consoles?  Plenty of '13-18 year old males' are buying a Wii.  And not just looking for 'mature rated content'.  Looking for games from a variety of fields, from Mario and Zelda to Metroid and Smash Bros and even Mario Kart and Pikmin.

Spend some time on this site and you'll even see how many 'hardcore HD console gamers' have one or two major Wii games they're highly anticipating.

Well of course I can't speak for every single 13-18 year old male as they all have different tastes; but the majority of people in this range love shooting games and games that are considered "hardcore" like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto.

In the end Nintendo made the right move going after the casual audience and got huge sales and profit; I'm just saying it would be nice if they had more hardcore games.

As I said before, many of those same people will often times be interested in one or more of Nintendos series.  Such as Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Star Fox or even Mario.  Is everyone going to be?  No.  But the reason Nintendo has gotten to the place it is today is because it tries to make games that appeal to everyone.  In fact, if you really look at it, some of the series like Metroid and Fire Emblem actually target more specific markets, and sell less because of that.  But most of their other series try to hit on all available markets.  Something such as Star Fox or Pikmin isn't just made for one age group or demographic in mind.

As a result, people who tend to like something such as GTA or MGS or Assassins Creed mgith also be anticipating Metroid: Other M, Mario Galaxy 2 and Zelda Wii.  That's the key to the Wiis success.

Those are all great games you named, and I would love to play some of them (I don't have a wii). I'm not asking Nintendo to come up with new hardcore series of their own; all I'm saying is they need to get these 3rd party games like GTA, Cod and AC. If Nintendo had all the great 3rd party games, and the first party games like Mario then there is no reason for anyone not to own a wii.

And why is it Nintendos job to get the third party games?  They made the system, they developed the customer base and they secured the marketshare.  Third parties should be working on the Wii because its doing the best and has the most customers, not Nintendo having to ask them to.

Frankly, its pretty pathetic that all these companies have only been making all their mini games, casual games and 'secondary' games for the Wii and then cry fowl when the games Nintendo makes sell 100x better.  And yes, this even includes stuff like the recent Resident Evil titles and No More Heroes.  Games which would have been deemed lackluster if they were released on the HD consoles. 

The third parties are the ones not putting forth the effort (no marketing and lackluster games) and so customers are buying the stuff Nintendo is making.  Its not Nintendos job to oversee the entire gaming industry and make sure the third parties all pay nice on every system.  And if they started doing that, then you'd throw your fist in the air and start screaming 'damn Nintendo for taking over everything!'  But that's what you're basically asking them to do.  The only alternative is for Nintendo to buy support, and frankly Nintendo is a business.  And right now, business for them is good even without any third party support.  So good...they're on top of the industry all by themselves.

It might not be there job but as platform holders they do have some responsibility when it comes to content on there system. If were desperate for 3rd party core material than they would do what Sony or MS do and negotiate and consult with 3rd parties to bring core games to there system.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Since Nintendo is easily outselling PS3 and 360 on a regular basis there is no need for them to make deals with third party publishers to get more games; but you would think Nintendo owes it to its consumers to get all the best games on their system. I know Nintendo is doing all they can to make great games but they still need to do something about this lack of good third party support.

Whatever Nintendo does is never enough for these industry types. With the N64 and Gamecube they were told that their userbase was too small to develop exclusive games for them. Now that the Wii userbase is huge, developers either say the system is too "weak" or that they can't understand the Wii market. Even during the SNES and NES eras western devs tried as hard as they could to not develop for Nintendo systems.

As for the "power" excuse, when Nintendo tried to develop tech-heavy systems that didn't get them anywhere.