Scoobes said:
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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Chairman-Mao said:
I agree with Sega, Nintendo needs to start making a few mature games. I know Nintendo likes their family friendly image but they are never going to get 13-18 year old males buying their consoles if they have no hardcore/mature (whatever you want to call it) games. This is actually one of the two things keeping me from buying a Wii (the other being my budget). |
Hate to break it to you, but have you looked at the sales of consoles? Plenty of '13-18 year old males' are buying a Wii. And not just looking for 'mature rated content'. Looking for games from a variety of fields, from Mario and Zelda to Metroid and Smash Bros and even Mario Kart and Pikmin.
Spend some time on this site and you'll even see how many 'hardcore HD console gamers' have one or two major Wii games they're highly anticipating.
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Well of course I can't speak for every single 13-18 year old male as they all have different tastes; but the majority of people in this range love shooting games and games that are considered "hardcore" like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto.
In the end Nintendo made the right move going after the casual audience and got huge sales and profit; I'm just saying it would be nice if they had more hardcore games.
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As I said before, many of those same people will often times be interested in one or more of Nintendos series. Such as Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Star Fox or even Mario. Is everyone going to be? No. But the reason Nintendo has gotten to the place it is today is because it tries to make games that appeal to everyone. In fact, if you really look at it, some of the series like Metroid and Fire Emblem actually target more specific markets, and sell less because of that. But most of their other series try to hit on all available markets. Something such as Star Fox or Pikmin isn't just made for one age group or demographic in mind.
As a result, people who tend to like something such as GTA or MGS or Assassins Creed mgith also be anticipating Metroid: Other M, Mario Galaxy 2 and Zelda Wii. That's the key to the Wiis success.
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Those are all great games you named, and I would love to play some of them (I don't have a wii). I'm not asking Nintendo to come up with new hardcore series of their own; all I'm saying is they need to get these 3rd party games like GTA, Cod and AC. If Nintendo had all the great 3rd party games, and the first party games like Mario then there is no reason for anyone not to own a wii.
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And why is it Nintendos job to get the third party games? They made the system, they developed the customer base and they secured the marketshare. Third parties should be working on the Wii because its doing the best and has the most customers, not Nintendo having to ask them to.
Frankly, its pretty pathetic that all these companies have only been making all their mini games, casual games and 'secondary' games for the Wii and then cry fowl when the games Nintendo makes sell 100x better. And yes, this even includes stuff like the recent Resident Evil titles and No More Heroes. Games which would have been deemed lackluster if they were released on the HD consoles.
The third parties are the ones not putting forth the effort (no marketing and lackluster games) and so customers are buying the stuff Nintendo is making. Its not Nintendos job to oversee the entire gaming industry and make sure the third parties all pay nice on every system. And if they started doing that, then you'd throw your fist in the air and start screaming 'damn Nintendo for taking over everything!' But that's what you're basically asking them to do. The only alternative is for Nintendo to buy support, and frankly Nintendo is a business. And right now, business for them is good even without any third party support. So good...they're on top of the industry all by themselves.
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It might not be there job but as platform holders they do have some responsibility when it comes to content on there system. If were desperate for 3rd party core material than they would do what Sony or MS do and negotiate and consult with 3rd parties to bring core games to there system.
And I don't think 3rd parties are putting in no effort (at least not all publishers), just that 3rd parties are putting effort into non-core genres. They're putting effort into the new genres Nintendo has helped create and for new demographics. Whilst they might seem like lacklustre games to you, they're obviously making a good profit otherwise these 3rd-parties wouldn't bother putting anything on Wii. I believe the quantity ratio of games on Wii compared to PS3 & 360 is seriously in the Wii's favour.
I personally believe 3rd parties are feeding the line "non-Nintendo core games don't sell on Wii" not because that's actually true, but because they're making far more profit off of non-core games (even with lacklustre sales).
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That's exactly it however. If they're not putting any effort into making 'core' games and only making so called 'casual' titles, then whining because Nintendo is selling better than them in that market, they should try to either make different types of games for the Wii or make better games in that market. Its a catch 22. The third parties for almost 2 years ignored the Wii and hardly made any games for it. Then when they finally did, all they made were casual/mini games (aside from a few exceptions like Muramasa, Madworld or Little Kings Story). Now that all those casual/mini games aren't selling well, they're whining about it. And frankly, its not only a problem of the third parties making lackluster games, but just so many of them. Why should a customer buy a sequel to a Resident Evil rail shooter or another Carnival Games or another Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games when there's already a dozen games on the Wii that are similar?
They can't exactly whine about people not buying their games when there's so many other games on the Wii just like it. And they've already made previous versions. Its like a whole host of people coming late to a marathon and saying 'dang it, why didn't I win!?'
