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coolbeans said:
Andysw said:
coolbeans said:
Andysw said:
coolbeans said:
Andysw said:

I don't believe they have sold over 39 million units. They couldn't have, otherwise the xbox 360 would have outsold the playstation 3 on a monthly basis since the launch of the playstation 3 slim.

The key word is shipped, when MS says 39 "sold" that's strictly to all retailers WW.  I'm not sure of PS3's numbers at Sony's CES but they'd say the same thing like 33 or 34 PS3's have been sold which invariably mean shipped to retailers as well.

I guess ballmer stretched the truth about worldwide sales. When big bosses/employers talk about sales, they should talk about how many units they've sold to customers, not retailers. He should be ashamed for lying. Hes more intelligent than to deceive others for accumulative xbox 360 sales.

Ashamed? What are you talking about ? Sony, Ninty, and MS count the overall systems they sold as shipped since they only keep track of what they've "sold" to retailers because that's where all their sales go.  When he says 39 mil sold, it's taken as sold to retailers simple as that.  It's not a secret evil MS move, it's just business.  Why use the tracked estimates of companies like NPD, when you can give a fact stated by your shipping manufacters that you've sold 39 million 360's to retailers WW?

So are you saying that vgchartz is wrong about xbox 360 sales being less than 29 million worldwide?

You mean 39 mil WW? While I do think vgchartz numbers for it are low for 360 by the numbers we got at CES, it's not because it's less than 39 mil.  VGChartz gives estimates sold to retailers but MS gives definite numbers from what they've sold to retailers.  So subtract 39 mil from VGC's 360 numbers and you'll have about 2.2 mil which means that's how many they (VGChartz) believe are in retailers' inventory worldwide.  What some are questioning is if that difference of retailer inventory was less than 2 million during the holidays, then why would retailers have a bigger stock of it after.  While the answer seems clear that VGC's numbers are closed, there's also a few other variables that can be considered that VGC's numbers could (strong could) be pretty dead on with 360 numbers such as 360 not having a strong holiday as expected so they're backlogged and so on and so on. 

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