dharh said:
jack100 said:
dharh said:
Lets see. Pennies per gig (disc based, Direct download), or dollars per gig? Do the math.
We have a long long way to go before flash catches up with disc based mediums, by that time people are going to accept downloading their games. Downloading games is way more convenient. Game gets released, everyone who wants a copy can get a copy, nearly instantly (donwload time). No waiting in line overnight, no worrying if they are sold out.
If you want a 'physical' copy, make a backup to a USB flash card.
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it's not the same to have a physical copy on a USB flash card compared to going to the store to pick one up.....for me at least.
Downloads can be a pain if they don't have a good server, can you imagine how slow it will get if millions of people were to downlaod a game at the same time? It would be faster for me to go to me closest game store.
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The servers would be able to handle it, the download servers could be made scalable so they turn on extra servers and bandwidth when necessary. Millions of people would be downloading every single day, a new release (even a mega hit) might not even be more than a blip.
What you really want is the case, to show off on your shelf, I seriously doubt most people care about the disc itself, other than the fact that its part of the package (case, instructions, disc). Even if some people do want the physical version, developers could always do both. You should obviously pay more for the physical game, but if you want it, then by all means.
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yeah, I guess your right, they can do that. The problems that do arrise is that next gen if you use HVDs for example that can hold theoritically 1 TB of data.(I think I can't remember right now), I don't want to wait that long to download that, especially in my area. In my area I don't know about all, but most ISPs have bandwidth cap, meaning I would have to pay by the gig to download more than the cap. If I have an 80 gig cap per month, then this will really fail for me and I will be picking up a physical copy. Also it IS a little faster, but I still would have to wait proabaly a couple of days to download even 500gigs. (didn't do that math for speed, I apologize if it seems wrong.)
jneul said:
jack100 said:
Let's assume that the future of gaming isn't legal downloading of games. Let's say 10 years from now we can still go to our local game store and still buy a game physically. I would hate online distribution, I personally like to have a physical cartridge or disk than download it. A lot of people are assuming that the next high Capacity "disc" that will be used in gaming is Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD). I'm asking is it possible that Cartridge based gaming can come back? Here's a little of my argument, right now you can get Solid-State Drives that are hard drives made from several flash drives (I guess), whereas the normal hard drives are made from cylintrical several disc like disc. We know that Flash drives, such as USB, SD (mini and micro) and getting smaller and faster. By the time when HVD comes out (theoretically holds 1 to 10 TB) wouldn't there be flash drives that can hold that capacity, AND you an access the data faster than a disc drive? yes right now they're expensive, but they are getting chaeper, smaller and can hold larger capacity every year. One problem that I can think of with flash drive gaming would be how too keep it cool in the next gen console if it's reading it at a really hgh rate.
I persoanlly hope so, I hate loading times that disc give me on my consoles, but I guess I'm more spoiled when it comes to speed since I liked it when I popped in a cartridge and the game would load instantly. Also please don't say games don't have high loading times, they do, all disc based games do, they had a lot of background loading which I can tell in some games and it annoys me :P
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you never owned a c64 with tape deck did you?? You would have hated the loading times there big time, serioulsy the time it takes to load from DVD's and Blurays is hardly even noticeable, not to mention some games feature a hardrive installation feature (reduces loading times even more).
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nope never, but yeah, I've heard of the horrendous load times on those. Also I hate games that need installation. If a friend of mine wants to try out a game, and I don't have it installed, I would have to wait for it to install. Personally I think you should be able to choose to install or not on a console.
hduser said:
jack100 said:
Let's assume that the future of gaming isn't legal downloading of games. Let's say 10 years from now we can still go to our local game store and still buy a game physically. I would hate online distribution, I personally like to have a physical cartridge or disk than download it. A lot of people are assuming that the next high Capacity "disc" that will be used in gaming is Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD). I'm asking is it possible that Cartridge based gaming can come back? Here's a little of my argument, right now you can get Solid-State Drives that are hard drives made from several flash drives (I guess), whereas the normal hard drives are made from cylintrical several disc like disc. We know that Flash drives, such as USB, SD (mini and micro) and getting smaller and faster. By the time when HVD comes out (theoretically holds 1 to 10 TB) wouldn't there be flash drives that can hold that capacity, AND you an access the data faster than a disc drive? yes right now they're expensive, but they are getting chaeper, smaller and can hold larger capacity every year. One problem that I can think of with flash drive gaming would be how too keep it cool in the next gen console if it's reading it at a really hgh rate.
I persoanlly hope so, I hate loading times that disc give me on my consoles, but I guess I'm more spoiled when it comes to speed since I liked it when I popped in a cartridge and the game would load instantly. Also please don't say games don't have high loading times, they do, all disc based games do, they had a lot of background loading which I can tell in some games and it annoys me :P
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Smaller, yes. Faster, yes. Cheaper, no. It'll never happen as companies will look out for their bottom line and not your convenience.
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they are getting chaeper. what's the max capacity right now 32 gigs? not sure, but a year from now a 32 gigs chip won't be as expensive as it is now.
