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naznatips on 29 November 2007
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Edouble24 said:
naznatips said:
souixan said:

"1) Battle Mode
FFXIII will retain the fast-paced, real-time battle system seen in FFXII, relying on command inputs to decide a scrap. "

I lost interest right there, I played this interface on FFXI for 4 years and it destroyed FFXII for me and if FFXIII is the same... I'll pass..

And god damnit Cloud was so wussy >.> Locke, Setzer, Celes, Kain, Cecil >.> those are characters damnit!


Here here!

Male FF characters became too girly after VI. With the notable exceptions of FFIX's characters and Auron from FFX.

Also Jessman there was nothing Futuristic about Ivalice in XII. In fact, that's one of the few things they did right. A fantasy setting > a sci-fi setting.

May I ask what exactly was girly about Cloud, Barret, Cid, Vincent and Red XIII? At first I assumed you might have been talking about their looks but then you mentioned FFIXs characters were an exception. So just curious, what makes them girly to you?

Oh and FFXII had some pretty shallow character development...It seemed like Ashe was the only one with a hint of character development and even she barely had any.


Yeah, I was talking about the artwork, although actually after VII their personalities became girly too...

FFIX characters definitely did not have the girly art style.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a0/Adelbert_Steiner.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Amarant_Coral_character.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Vivi_Ornitier_character.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Zidane_Tribal_character.jpg

Zidane maybe a little, but nothing like Cloud.  If you gave Cloud long red hair you couldn't tell him apart from Aeris.   Also Tears Zidane was hilarious because of how cocky he was.  Plus, unlike Cloud, he seemed to genuinly care about others.  Cloud did near the end of the game, but Zidane would sacrifice himself in an instant to help others, wheras Cloud's motivation was much more selfish.  

Also Edouble, you didn't like FFIX's supporting cast?  They had sooo much character development!  Vivi's story and deep questions about the nature of existence and the soul, the struggles of Garnet and her purpose and location in life, Steiner's conflicts between duty and morality, Freya's search for her lost love and her grief over the loss of her people, Amarant's great clashing of personalities with Zidane and his quest for ultimate power, and Eiko's search for a true family, and even Quina provided great comic relief with his(its) desire to find new foods to eat.  

FFIX has a masterful cast of characters and does a brilliant job of developing them and making you fall in love with each of them.