disolitude said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
disolitude said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
disolitude said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
I never said anything about a 120hz LCD tvs. I said 120hz from SOURCE (no matter the type of TV).
That article talks about 3D vision (nvidia), something that is not PS3/Sony's 3D TV plan.
The second shows what it does, which is awesome but it does not offer any explanation. 3D Ready has always meant nVidia 3d... which is checkerboard 3d. I guess we can agree on one thing, we wont know until they actually release more data.
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Lol. This is true only for LCD/CRT displays. All I was saying is that for DLP projectors, plasmas an DLP TVs you need 60 hz source since they use checkerboad to show both images(for each eye) at the same time and don't need to refresh the screen.
The thing about the whole 3D fiasco...Nvidia 3D vision supports checkerboard, 120 hz lcd from the source thing and the old school red/blue glasses (anaglyph)...its very versitile.
While its true that we need more data to see how this bluray 3D with shape up, the 3D tech has been around for a while and nothing has really changed. The only thing thats different is that they finally have the means to do it in HD at a cost where a consumer can afford it...
On the gaming side, if Sony or Micosoft want to implement 3D in their games...they will need someone to make the 3D drivers for their consoles/games. There are 3 companes that can do it. Nvidia, IZ3d and Tridef. Starting from scratch for would be crazy since all 3 of those companies hve been doing what they do for over 5 years and have perfected their 3D...
I guess what Im saying is that, Sony, Samsung, LG...will come out all guns blazing in tryign to consumers to purchase the 120 hz refresh TV that supports 3D for...3000 dollars. And consumers won't realize that they can purcahse a DLP or a plasma which have equal if not better results for half the price...and they could have done this 2 years ago.
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Did you read this? Look back at what checkerboard actually does. It takes the signal, splits it between both eyes to equal a 1080p signal @60hz per eye (equievelent of 120hz) Read the bottom right of the page you posted elsewhere. It says "Combine: the left and right sampled images into one full 1080p image for display"
From the press release: "Notably, the specification allows every Blu-ray 3D player and movie to deliver Full HD 1080p resolution to each eye, thereby maintaining the industry leading image quality to which Blu-ray Disc viewers are accustomed. Moreover, the specification is display agnostic, meaning that Blu-ray 3D products will deliver the 3D image to any compatible 3D display, regardless of whether that display uses LCD, Plasma or other technology and regardless of what 3D technology the display uses to deliver the image to the viewer’s eyes."
This means one of 2 things.
1) 120hz output (which the ps3 cannot natively support. Need HDMI 1.4 for this)
2) 2x60hz outputs @1080p (one for each eye)
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So what you are suggesting is that 3D bluray wont support checkerboard displays? You will need a 120 hz input for the TV or it will not work at all...
Cause I dont see option #2 working on any TV...no TV has resolution of 1080p X 2 that it could dedicate 1080p to yeach eye and stay at 60 hz.
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They do not say any tv. They say any TV compatible with this technology, which could be a TV that has the tech for checkerboard built in, but it just isnt using that mode. Doing 1080p x2 (each @60hz) is duable via HDMI 1.3 (which the ps3 has and other blueray players have). Meaning the cable has enough throughput to support this much data. Im betting the PS3/blueray 3D tech will use this type of signal to generate the full 1080p per eye. The Xbox360 and their plans for 3D gaming are different. I bet those will definitely use checkerbox, since they are using HDMI 1.2 (which does not support this). Post up your tv? Im curious and Id like to take a look at it.
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I use 2 displays when gaming in 3D. I have the Samsung HL67a750 and viewSonic VX2265wm FuHzion monitor.
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/x-series/vx2265wm-fuhzion-lcd.htm
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/about/458892796/samsung-hl67a750
Monitor is LCD with 120 hz input and screen refresh.
DLP TV is 120 screen refresh (only 60hz input) with checkerbox 3D capability.
Monitor is very good...but ghosting is evident and its only 1680x1050. I know that the DLP supposedly cuts the pixels in half with the checkerboard pattern but they do some trickery cause I really can't notice it. Its not as obvious as when you interlace a 1080 signal in to 1080i.
DLP has no ghosting what so ever and looks a little better in motion to me than the monitor.
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