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Epoch on 07 January 2010
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selnor said:
drkohler said:
selnor said:
drkohler said:
selnor said:

.. Natal hardware itaself evalutes trillions of body configurations every frame.

No it obviously doesn't. Where did you get that idea from?

From M$ at CES less than 24 hours ago. LOL. You all should see more Natal CES stuff. LOL. At least this thread is funny. The more hate a product gets. History tells us they are usually HUGELY successful.

ok.. since you seem to be a little short of working brain cells, let's do some wag math. Suppose a "body configuration" consists of only 12 data points a processor/fpga has to find and "evaluate" and store back per frame. We need about (1 trillion) * 30fps * 12 data points * 3clock cycles (an incredibly fast fpga)= roughly 1000 trillion operation per second. That's several 1000 XBox processors running in parallel. Where do you fit that into your Xbox? (What really happened is that the developers _evaluated millions of frames_ (with possibly "trillions of body configuration") and condensed the results into an AI database. Wasn't there something said about resulting in 31 body configurations?).

 

Now did you even watch CES? Firstly the very same video goes on to say that Natal is the only product of it's type to actually realtime track the entire body. Unlike other products in the field ( clearly referring to Eyetoy ) where he says " Until now, if you wanted to measure the movements of parts of somebody's body you'd need some kind of device like a remote ( wii ) or a marker ( Eyetoy + wand ). The player doesnt need to fit their actions with the technology like before. Natal changes for the player.

Now for the BIGGEST statement in the video. EXACTLY THE SAME STATEMENT AS AT E3 09!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

50% Hardware and 50% Software. Oh sh*t the article in OP loses all credibility. It obviously hasnt lost anything since E3. So either the decision was made to lose some chip 2 or 3 years ago. Or no chips have been lost at all. Becasue it's the same as said at E3. Not 40& Hardware not 30 - 70 it's still as of Jan 06th 50-50.

Oh and Natal tracks 48 points of your body. Confirmed. Sigh.

 

Wow man, you REALLY care about this stuff.  I don't see why you are arguing that this cannot possibly be true; in my eyes lowering the price point is a good thing.  You keep referring to CES 2010 as having made the same statement about NATAL as E3 2009.  I disagree:

E3 2009:

"Project Natal" sensor. "Project Natal" is the world's first system to combine an RGB camera, depth sensor, multiarray microphone and custom processor running proprietary software that brings "Project Natal" experiences to every Xbox 360 console. The "Project Natal" sensor tracks full-body movement and individual voices, creating controller-free fun and social entertainment available only on Xbox 360.

CES 2010:

"Project Natal" sensor. "Project Natal" combines an RGB camera, depth sensor and multiarray microphone running proprietary software that brings "Project Natal" experiences to every Xbox 360 console. The "Project Natal" sensor tracks full-body movement and individual voices, turning you into the controller for social entertainment available only on Xbox 360.

 

See the difference?  Good day sir.

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