SciFiBoy said:
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I am all for Israel taking the whole of Jerusalem and keeping it as their undivided capital until the end of time.
Jerusalem belongs to Jews only.
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Ermmm how? Please elaborate?
With that logic the indigenous white are the supreme rulers of this country. Such a extreme and irrational statement.
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It's simple. Just like London belongs to the English or Berlin belongs only to the Germans and Paris belongs only to the French.
Of course it's okay for the Arabs to keep living in Jerusalem, but the city should belong to and be governed by the Jewish state of Israel. And Arabs in Jerusalem can only voice their opinion through the institutions in the Israeli society.
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If you're talking about ethnic self-determination, that rather goes against your argument. The Jews, at least in modern times, arrived in Israel artificially. Granted, the Palestinians (being of Arab ethnicity), injected themselves there as well, but they have a sizable head-start of 1200 years or so.
Do the Jews have the right to a homeland? It's a tough academic question, since they would have to supplant a native people wherever they could go. If we take an absolute "a land belongs to its people" approach, Jews have no-where to go that they could legitimately call their home (at least, call their home exclusively)
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The Jews have been in Israel and Jerusalem continuously for three thousand years. The majority of Jews were once cast out of Israel unfairly.
Of course the Jews have right to a homeland, and that land is Israel.
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but WHY though? becuase of what? history? okay, but why 3,000 years ago for that land and 1,000 years ago for London?
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Because they are currently there now... and there is nowhere else for them to go.
The Israeli's and Palestinians had a deal in place that was fair, but the Palestinians didn't like it, and declared a war with a bunch of surrounding nations.
They lost, and not support terrorism to try and get back to the original deal in the first place.
Palestine is asking for land back, they lost when commiting a war of agression, while commiting terrorism who's effectivieness is based on proximity... and who's democratically elected government is a terrorist group.
It'd be the same functionally if an Afghanistan led government by Osama Bin Laden asked the USA for land in Afghanistan back.... and Afghanistan included part of Washington DC... oh and if Afghanistan decalred war on the US instead of vice versa.
(Yes I know Osama Bin Laden wasn't actually part of the Taliban. Just an example.)
Both nations have been walking away, ever since the Palestinians screwed it up by walking away from the best deal they've ever had because "Their people wouldn't accept it".
The PLO is corrupt through and through, and Hamas is a bunch of terrorists.
Well not even terrorists now. They're technically the offical government of the west bank.
They should be treated as such, but no nation does, because if they did, Hamas' terrorism suddenly becomes not terrorism, but a war... and war crimes.
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