What place will the ps3 end up in at the end of this Gen?

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jneul said:
x360 only has a very small amount of price reduction moves it can make, really PS3 has the high ground on this one, and Natal is going to flop imo, because it will only cater to casuals, there are hardly any casuals on the XBOX 360 and Halo only appeals to hardcore users, so yes Natal will flop, whereas PS3 has already a mixture of casuals and hardcore, and the hardware will have the ability to cater to both users, so I believe the PS Wands should have a better success rate.

uh, if the point of both is to attract casuals, then wouldnt natal move more hardware since, as you say, ps3 is already a mix of casuals and hardware (which btw i think is BS) and 360 has none, so those attracted by natal would buy new consoles?