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naznatips on 28 November 2007
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PS-She said:
naznatips said:
 

1)  Again, your welcome to your opinion, but the facts are far from supporting that opinion. The Wii's American sales are currently outselling the PS3's combined worldwide sales by more than 100K. How can the PS3 possibly catch up to a console like that when even right after a major pricedrop and during the holidays it's not even within a competing sales range. In fact, it's not even close to a competing sales range. Meanwhile the Wii has yet to even drop the price to mass market level.

2)  For the record, mass market price has been proved time and again to be $200, not $250. The PS2 sold more than 80% of it's lifetime hardware at under $200. Can you imagine what will happen to the Wii if it's not even in mass market price range yet? Not to mention it sold out in much of the world for its entire first year with overall a crappy selection of software and very crappy 3rd party support. Yet, despite this, it's software sales have been very healthy and it had 10 million selling games within the first year (even if you don't count the pack-in sales of Wii Sports) compared to the PS3's 2 million selling games.

3)  I absolutely agree that the PS3 will do much much better next year. I think it will be in direct competition with the 360 because of its quality software and big games like MGS4 and Gran Turismo (FFXIII won't be till 09), but every single piece of available evidence points towards a stronger 2nd year for the Wii than its first. A much stronger 2nd year in fact. I understand completely that you don't want this to happen. Many people don't want the Wii to succede, but this is a game sales site, and numbers and statistics speak far louder than opinions here.


1 & 2)  The PS3 started so far above your market level that it isn't funny.  You claim that market level means so much yet ignore the obvious difference between a console that starts $400 above your market level and a console that starts $50 above your market level.  That's not a small difference.  If market level really means as much as you say it does, just imagine what will happen when the PS3 gets into that ballpark.

You say the Wii still sold well with crappy software and crappy 3rd party support yet some of the biggest name Nintendo titles have already been released-Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.  The Wii Sports packin also yielded good results for Nintendo.  The bottom line is that most of the rest of the Wii's lineup isn't so strong both in name or quality (sometimes both).  Even the worst playing PS3 game that controls like crap looks amazing.  The Wii can't even claim that.  It's only a matter of time until Nintendo runs out of Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl type games and quality PS3 titles overwhelm the market.

3)  The 360 will easily be crushed underfoot as developers like Insomniac and Naughty Dog show how to make the PS3 shine.  It will be those great games that make the PS3 worth owning rather than a slew of mediocre titles.

The PS3 will likely never drop below $200 before the release of the PS4.  Mass market price is an unachievable dream for the PS3, wheras the Wii can hit it at a moment's notice.  If sales ever drop, they have it as a readily available trump card.  Obviousy sales haven't even been close to dropping at this point.

 As far as the rest of the Wii's lineup, most of the sequels to the GC's best selling games have yet to be released.  Mario Kart DD and Super Smash Bros. Melee were the two best selling GC games and both of them are being released next year.  Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Mario Basebal, and Kirby all have games set for release next year as well.  Nintendo also has Wii Fit, Wii Music, Wii Chess, massive amounts of Wii Ware games, and Disaster: Day of Crisis as new IPs. That's not counting anything unannounced.

From third parties they have Tales of Symphonia: KoR, Baten Kaitos 3, Oboro Muramasa, Fragile, Okami,  Harvest Moon, Monster Hunter 3, King Story, FFCC:TCB, No More Heroes, Monster Lab, Wii Ware games like FFCC:TYKatPL, and more.

Now, I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest of comparing the lineup to the PS3, as I think the PS3 has an excellent lineup next year as well, but I do want to compare the Wii's library next year to the Wii's library this year.  Next year its library is much much stronger than it was this year both in 3rd party and 1st party release lists. 

I don't really understand why you think the Wii will "run out" of games.  What do you think the developers of Super Mario Galaxy did when they finished the game?  Start work on Wii Music?  Of course not, they are Nintendo strongest core game development studio. Nintendo only has 1 studio making the "Wii series" games out of their 20 some studios and subsidiaries.  The 20 some other studios are already working on their next big game.  Just as Retro said they started 2 new Wii projects after Metroid Prime 3 and Camelot is working on a Wii RPG.  Just as Aonuma and the Twilight Princess team are already hard at work on the first ground up Wii Zelda game as they said.  Nintendo isn't just going to stop making games for your convenience.  

The PS3 absolutely has an incredible lineup next year, and it's an amazing system that should have great sales next year in both software and hardware, but to think that the Wii is just going to die out and drop off at your whim is simply ignorant.