Can I spare several minutes of your time?

[bimmylee]

Squilliam said:

bimmylee said:

"A peaceable solution would have been found more appealing." To whom? Israel? Unlikely. "They would have been more willing to compromise." How so? And why should they? They've done nothing illegal. The UN is the one who assisted them in becoming a nation (again) in the first place. And your apartheid analogy is very flawed. The motivation and historical context is entirely different here.

Your comments have exposed how uneducated you are in terms of world news. Israel is currently in a formal state of war with at least two nations (Syria and Lebanon), if not more. Iran doesn't "accept the existence of the state." Jordan is working to restore ties with Hamas, the author of these quotes. If you really believe such a ridiculous thing, then your anti-Israel bias has been made clear here, and I don't intend to argue further.

I'll keep it simple.

Israel spend much money on security

Israel get much money given to them as aid

If Israel no get money they can't pay for all guards everywhere

Oh no what Israel do?

I know! Israel make compromise to ensure peace.

And no im not talking about with neighbours, im talking about not being able to guard settlements, keep aggressive road blocks etc which antagonise the palestinians. Whether or not theres a historic context or not, there are palestinians alive today who now have jewish people living in houses they hold titles to.

 

I'm confused. Of course Israel needs help with military funding. So what? Countries give money to Israel to help Israel defend itself and ensure Israel's existence. That's obvious. What is important is the "why"... Why is it that some want Israel to exist in its current form? Could it be that maybe Israel has what rightfully belongs to them? Some don't think so, and that is the true issue at hand; that is what all of these debates and conflicts stem from.

And even if Israel suddenly drops its arms, what makes you think that its enemies will play nice and won't use it as an opportunity to utterly destroy Israel instead of "making a compromise to ensure peace?" If I were Israel's enemies, that is exactly what I would do if Israel stopped fighting... it's the only action that makes any practical sense! And you know what? All of recent history tells us that that is exactly what they want. Not compromise. Not peace. They want Israel wiped from the pages of history. I already cited a small sampling of the plethora of the evidence for this. The Six Day War is another excellent example: nine different nations align to try and destroy Israel, and Israel promptly humiliates them.

You can't support Israel's existence and then not support Israel. I will say, however, that I certainly don't condone every single action of the Israeli government. I'm totally sincere when I say that there's been terrible atrocities. But the bottom line is that Israel looks out for Israelis... and that should come as no surprise.