pirated games of 2009 with numbers (mw2 5.1m)

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nightsurge said:

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vlad321 said:

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Pirates use such great logic.... I think the Dodge Viper is a subpar car so I'm going to go steal one to show them my dissatisfaction!

I don't personally enjoy Snickers bars, so I'm going to go steal 4 of them to show they are not worth the price or the product isn't good enough!

Apparently they have no grasp of economics to realize that by not buying the game they are doing the right thing if they do in fact think it is an inferior product. Stealing the game, whether to play it or not, just classifies you as a freeloader in economics... a worthless drain on society.

Anti-pirate people have huge problems with analogies and logic it seems. I steal a car and where's the original car? Can someone else buy the original car? No? Then it's not the same. I steal 4 Sickers bars, then can anyone else buy those 4 Snickers Bars? No? Then it's not the same.

Apparently they can't even make a simple analogy.

Wow... thanks for proving my point on the flawed logic pirates have.

Yes someone can still buy the original car when it has been stolen... they can buy it from the guy who stole it or in a direct relation to piracy, they can buy one that is still available for purchase.  Same with the candy bars.

If you are trying to use the flawed argument of "its not stealing, its a copy" then apparently pirates have no grasp of the term COPYRIGHTED!  Otherwise known as illegal to make, distribute, or claim ownership of something that was copied from an original without consent.

Wow... your logic is just...

I know about Copyright, but that is nowehere equivalent to stealing of physical media. Also copyright is a law. I addressed the hilarity of law earlier in the topic.

Ah, yes, that's right.  Pirates are above the law.  The law is merely the last place someone goes to that has no arguments apparently... though you have yet to give an argument AGAINST the law... you merely use more of this avoidance tactics and flawed logic of pirates to not even comment on the law.

I also find it hilarious that pirates try to make it as if their are varying degrees of stealing/theft.  "Stealing this in such a manner is no where near the same as stealing that in that way!" 

Keep it coming, pirates.  You guys make my day

Well Sweden and Spain don't mind, as long as you don't make profits off the piracy. So then... who's right?

Also no, pirates don't try to say there's different levels of stealing because they aren't so stupid as to call piracy stealing.

Do you live in Sweden or Spain?  If not then piracy is a violation of copyright law and IS STEALING!  You are bound by the laws of your country.  You cannot pick and choose laws and freedoms from places to live by your own custom set of rules.

Gosh... is this really that hard to figure out?

Well hell, I travel around a lot. I just spent several months in Madrid this summer. Who do I listen to then?

Using the argument of "it's the law" is the last resort of people who can't think for themselves.

Wow... you really are suffering from the egotistical elitist stigma that PC gamers do.

Let me clarify since once again you don't seem to understand.  You have to follow the laws of the country you are a citizen of! What you do while in Spain or Sweden has to follow their laws, but immediately upon returning to your own residential country you must resume following the laws of that said country.  I would have thought this was common sense... guess not.

And how does "it's the law" mean I cannot think for myself?  We all have free will to do whatever we please.  I choose to obey laws that are just.  If they are unjust, they will naturally be filtered out.  Just like your flawed argument of using past laws to say that all law is a useless argument.  Those laws progressed naturally as the times did, as the people and places matured.  Just as, eventually, piracy in Sweden and Spain and other places will begin to see just treatment and receive laws against them.  The Pirate Bay was just shut down, and it was from Sweden.  Some countries simply progress faster/slower than others in different areas.

So once again, let me drive this point home.  While you are a resident of and currently residing in a country that finds piracy illegal, it is and forever will be illegal/stealing.  If you are in a country that allows it, then you can do it.... but only during the time you reside in that country and are bound by their laws.

Hmmm.. it seems I can think very clearly and intelligently... I guess someone who can't make a unique and logical argument like yourself is really the sign of people who can't think for themselves. 

Stop spreading lies and missinformation the piratebeay is not shut down and has never been.

 

And please stop using the term pirating it only shows you have given in to your coutries brainwashing in this mutter. There is a big difference in downloading an pirating but the corporations want u and us to make it one term for all to suit their purposes.

 

As for dowmloading it will never be fully illegal here and there is actually evidence that more coutnries are going to allow downloading while pirating will still be illegal. The only countries going the direction u are suggesting are UK and France while most of the rest of the countries are leaning the other way.

Dowloading is the best tool u will ever have as a consumer and there is no argument you can make to the contrary, yes there will be people using it to only download and never buy but there are people that dont and why would you try and take that great consumer tool away from them? jelousy is the only reason and going to say its illegal in the US therefor it should be and will be illegal elsewhere is just egoistic stupid and another sign of the brainwashing your countries big labels have gotten away with.

Before you go to the you can download demos argument I just want to tell you that it isnt as widespread as in the us with demos here, they are hard to find especially if it isnt a big game or not on pc.

Before u say goitn to rewiers instead of downloading, this generation has shown very clearly that the rewiers opinions and the consumers are so far apart from each other that their rewies are obselete for the average consumer and it has been that way since before this gen it just shows much more this gen.

Hey buddy.... maybe you should look it up before trying to act smart when it comes to The Pirate Bay.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10316037-93.html

Also, to both you and vlad.  I am arguing against piracy as it relates to me, my country.  Not the global issue.  That would be stupid because I do not exist globally as a citizen of multiple countries.  I am only a US citizen and I have been arguing this whole time against piracy in the US.  I thought this was clear....

Piracy in the US is illegal.  If you are a US citizen currently in US while pirating, it is illegal.  No way to ignore this fact.  Sorry all the flawed logic and flawed arguments in the world can't save you from your own immorality and the simple facts I've just shown you.

It was never shut down, the amerian movie association tried to strong arm their isp´s isp  to shut them down wich didnt work fore more then 3 hours, I live here i know what happened and if you still dont believe me go to their site and you will see they are still online and kicking with 23 000 000 users everyday.

and you really need to learn to think for your self and understand that piracy and dowloading is not the same thing its a big difference between the 2, the brainwashing works on you every time you refer to downloading as pirating and weakens any argument you have.

you havent shown me a thing just empy words.

Here is a fact for you that you cant deny downloading is the best consumer tool you and I or anybody else will have and for me that means more money to the industry since i save money from buying games that were shit, the money i save now goes to games that are good and i like and i am buying more games now then i did before. U guys are just acting on jelousy and nothing else you have no facts to support your claims at all and when to prove you r poing you are using the rhetoric of the brainwashing you been through instead of thinking by your self.

You said that you shoved me simple facts and i havent seen any from you to me and about my immorality how am I immoral when

1. Its not illegal to download

2. i support the indusry more them most and with the greatest certanty more then you ever have and will

its easy to say you showed me facts and i am immoral when you actually havent done anythig except writing that line.

Just because u cant do it the rest of the world shouldnt be allowed to use this consumer tool? that is pretty selfish and moronic stance.