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patapon on 01 January 2010
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jarrod said:
patapon said:
jarrod said:
patapon said:
jarrod said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Blacksaber said:
God of War has never been a system seller....

thats what they said about uncharted 

And they're right.  Dude Raider 2 may be a critical darling, but it's sales are hardly impressive for a hyped-to-hell prestige AAA 1st party product.  Expect the same for GOW3.

Raider 2? No no no, Uncharted 2, big difference. And why does Uncharted 2's sales not impress? That makes absolutely no logical sense... First off, the game has been out for only 10-11 weeks. How much software has it sold in that time frame? Ending Christmas week, it should pull in over 2.5 million units sold. Again, that's only in 10 weeks. When has that number ever been unimpressive? I'm at a loss for words here...

Now, only 1% of video game series do better than that sales wise. If a game doesn't have the words Wii, Halo, Mario, Zelda, Gears of War, Call of Duty, or Gran Turismo on the front of the box, it simply won't sell 6+ million. Why is Uncharted being held to a grossly high benchmark? 

When you take into account current sales, GOTY editions, price cuts, Bundles and future interest in the game, Uncharted 2 could very well sell 4.5-5 million copies. Also take into account that the franchise is only on the second game. Is that not impressive?

In regards to Uncharted 2 not being a system seller... http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=6079

You can clearly see that people bought a ps3 simply for Uncharted 2. It may be only a spike, but a system seller nonetheless.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think Uncharted 2's sales are fine (and a decent improvement over the first game).  But it's just not a killer app or system seller, it's not pushing the sorts of numbers to really qualify it to that level.  I'd say we're looking at a ceiling closer to 4m though.
But aren't the sales still impressive? I don't know about you, but the majority of predictions on vgchartz had U2 selling roughly 2-3 million when everything was said and done. The game has absolutely smashed those predictions in a mere 10 weeks.
In regards to killer apps... few games really have that kind of impression. It takes a combination of things to create such a product. Most importantly, the game needs to release at the beginning of a generation. It's a product that must be heavily sought after and create a need for many to purchase a console. U2 simply released too far into this generation to be a major system seller. But that's not to say that Uncharted 2 did not directly move some consoles (as shown in my previous link). 
 
Did it move a huge amount of systems upfront? Enough to be labeled a 'killer app'? No. But then again, nobody said it would...

 

To be honest, sales aren't all that impressive given it's likely the hardest push PS3 release post slim launch (both by Sony and the industry media).  650k for it's first 2 months NPD ltd is pretty meh, that's like a 2nd tier Microsoft series (Fable, Forza, etc).  Even Halo Wars did better iirc.  

It's impressive compared to the first though (which flopped upfront, then crawled to decent sales through price slashing and bundles).


Well, this site has Uncharted 2 above 650k in America... I highly doubt that NPD is correct on the state of U2 sales but I guess that's just a judgement call on who you trust... Also take into account that the titles you mentioned (fable) have sold a large amount of copies. They're selling right on track with big titles that don't consist of the top 1% 6+ million sellers, just like Uncharted.