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Soleron said:
Kasz216 said:
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What i think SS is talking about is educating people in non-core education to make them better citizens.  Which doesn't nessisairly have to involve college.  In fact, i'd think if your teaching humanities at college for the first time, a lot of the lessons about how and why people are is lost by then.

Subjects like Art, Music, Drama and PE are taught poorly in high school here. Every teacher of those subjects I've ever met favours 2 or 3 students who are talented in it and ignores the rest; doesn't even teach us to appreciate the subject (which is the point).

Those subjects, with History and Geography, should be taught to age 16 as appreciation subjects - no exam, just some exposure to culture and the key concepts. Same with English, if you're not taking it as a career then it shouldn't be 90% literary criticism but should be about reading things that are interesting and horizon-broadening. Not neccessarily the classics, as those alienate some people. Reading helps vocabulary ands helps you to express your ideas.

That would be a most interesting way of doing it.

Though yeah, the favoring of the talented students tends to be the way it goes... mostly I think because of how education kinda is treated.

I mean when you think about it... those are treated as worthless pursuits more or less.  So unlike say, Math which will help pretty much everybody.  Even though an appreciation of that stuff would also help everybody... most people don't look at it that way, even most teachers.

So it almost feels like to validate their own success they need to create successes.


Of course, an interesting thing is that those skills often broaden peoples ways of thinking... which can be a huge indicator of success.  That's often why extra-cirruculars are seen as good.  It's supposed to be used as a measurement of "thinking outside of the box."