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Kasz216 on 29 December 2009
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theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:

It's been in development since HD-DVD died.  That's exactly what I said?  Wasn't it.

I don't get this punctuation or idea at all. I never said you said that.

Had HD-DVD won... China wouldn't have done the same thing, even if Sony had offered.

That's because CBHD is HDDVD, sponsored and developed and backed by the same people. Warner, Universal, Toshiba, DVD Forum. If HDDVD won, then CBHD would never be developed, because it basically is HDDVD.

HD-DVD royalties were actually dirt cheap.  $12 vs the $30 of Blu-ray.

Had the BR royalties been lower... they wouldn't have done it.

No proof. CBHD IS HDDVD in a different package. HDDVD didn't even make it in China at 12$

 

 

If Sony had offered to liscense Blu-ray Technology.

Also CBHD and HD-DVD aren't the same thing.

 

As for HD-DVD making it in China... you still are under the conclusion that the government decides what will and won't suceed.  It doesn't.


It's quite simple actually.  The talk of a domestic product was because many chinese buisnesses actually took a loss making DVD players and didn't post profits until recently.

As in... when it was $12 a piece.

This was a clear indication that they wouldn't accept more.  Why would they when they were going to take a loss?  At $12 they would of been making profit.

from wikipedia, but still..

"Originally called CH-DVD, CBHD is a joint venture between the DVD Forum and OMNERC. Development began in 2005, and an early prototype was demonstrated in 2007.[1] In 2008 during the DVD Forum's 42nd Steering Committee Meeting the DVD Forum gave OMNERC the ability to edit HD DVD specifications

While originally based upon the DVD Forum's HD DVD format, there are several differences between the two formats. CBHD uses China's AVS video codec, DRA audio codec, and a new copy protection system, DKAA, as an alternative to HD DVD's and Blu-ray's AACS.[2][3][4][5] CBHD's developers claim the format contains more copy protection features and is part of a big push by China to fight piracy as well as cut down on royalty payments for foreign patents.[6]

CBHD also eschews HD DVD's Advanced Content content navigation system in favor of a Chinese system called CETC.[2]

Like HD DVD, CBHD discs have a capacity of 15GB single-layer and 30GB dual-layer and can use existing DVD production lines"

 

 

 

And?  The deal was made in place, if HD-DVD didn't win... because of Blu-rays ridiculious pricing structure.

That doesn't actually change anything.  Had Blu-ray agreed like HD-DVD did, for small royalties, this wouldn't of happened.  Or are you suggesting if HD-DVD won CBHD would of still existed?

That proves my point, not disproves it.  Unless you think Toshiba would of just willingly given up a big market way back in 05.

 

Either way, the fact that you claim Microsoft was supporting HD-DVD over Blu-ray because of console wars certaintly suggests that Console would be more valuable then movie rights.  (Something i missed you saying earlier.)

 

Of course it also suggests that apparently PC Labtops are more valuable then Consoles then.  Otherwise Sony would be selling Linux only right?