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Words Of Wisdom on 29 December 2009
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ZenfoldorVGI said:

Please, no one listen to the only AV nerd in the thread who owns a brand new Veria, and realizes that even the 2009 Pannys(like mine) still have issues with phosphor trailing, and all Plasma's still have problems with burnin, they just incorporate counter measures which themselves, often damage your set over time.

Man, out of all the ignorance in this thread, and there is a TON, the basic premise of using the amp to improve gaming is completely ignorant, you point out one of the ONLY valid posts and tell people not to listen to it, WTF bro?

The truth is, explaining television technology is very complex, and nearly impossible to bullet point.

With LCD, you have to deal with issues in screen uniformity. Clouding and flashlighting and the most prominant, but also viewing angle, black levels, and a few other issues. However, Veria(really the only plasma that anyone should buy in 2009 for under 2000 bucks) also has issues, like, I dunno, glare, phosphor trailing(already reported by many gamers), screen brightness, energy usage(still pretty high). For all intents and purposes, the LN52B750 is still a better(though more expensive) option for gamers. Great screen uniformity, deep blacks with only a small crushing issue. 2ms latency, no burn-in(though all LCD's can have image retention), super bright, no flashlighting(like the superthin series), 240hz true colors under 200 bucks.

The technology is debatable, the models available are too....just not as much. Whitewashing your screen over and over will reduce the half-life of your Plasma. Your Veria will burn-in just like all other plasmas do. Especially if you play games with BLACK BARS, and you will have to take counter measures(I burned in my Veria for the first 100 hours). Your Veria will eventually have phosphor trailing(and if you are a plasma fan, you might claim that you can't see it). Your TV is not made for static HUDs, and just because burn-in doesn't bother you doesn't mean it doesn't bother your set and your PQ for people who know what they're looking at.

For god sakes man, most people don't know that they have poor PQ. They think everything in HD looks great. They've never had a calibrated Veria or B7xx+ model Samsung LCD. Truth is Plasma vs LCD is very debatable, but there is NO DOUBT that LCD is more versatile and more suitable to gaming.

I am typing this through my gaming PC on a 52" samsung LCD. You can't use your Plasma as a computer monitor, because you will ruin it over time, that is now what it was meant for. If you care for it properly, you can game effectively on a Plasma, but that does not mean that a Plasma is meant for gaming. The technology has improved, but green phosphors still age differently than other colors. Burn-in still occours on Plasma monitors. Why should people not accept that? Where did you read that burn-in is no longer an issue for Plasma TVs and gamers? Who told you that?

This is why I say not to listen to you.  You sound like someone who wants to be an AV nerd but doesn't take proper care of your toys and ends up unhappy with them.  In the first 200 hours (some mfg'ers recommend 50 or 100, but I'd say 200), you should have the contrast/bright turned  down and avoid fixed images.  The reason is that this is the time frame where you are most susceptible to permanent IR as the phosphors are at their peak in display.  After that timeframe and they've aged a bit, you'd likely need upwards of 48 hours on a fixed picture to see permanent IR.  Of course, this is a moving target.  The older the set, the harder it is to end up with permanent IR.

As for the rest of your points...

  • Glare - Can be annoying but some $15 curtains solve the problem nicely.
  • Screen brightness - There are adjustments for this, you should consult your manual.
  • Energy usage - If you have issues with an extra dollar on your monthly energy bill, you shouldn't be buying a $1,000+ TV.
  • Phosphor trailing - I haven't seen this up close so no comment.
  • White washing reduces PQ - No shit.  White noise is what you do after you've screwed up so if you don't screw up it's not an issue.  Pixel/Picture shifting and using grey bars instead of black ones are what you do to avoid issues (before you screw up)


You like LCD.  Cool.  It doesn't change that you're getting a better PQ with a plasma TV that makes for much nicer everything from movie-watching to gaming.  The only hitch is that it requires some actual care.  If you want a giant computer monitor or are too lazy to properly care for your TV then LCD is the way to go.  For everyone else, there's plasma.