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scat398 said:
Jordahn you have completly misread his post. He wants to know why ps and pc gamers complain so much about ms console exclusives since they are available on the pc. I think it's a valid question? How did you come to the conclusion that you did, it really is a straight forward position.

Where have PC gamers complained about console exclusives that are available on the PC? I cannot think of one incident of that off the top of my head. I can think of some cases where the dev will butcher the PC version in some fashion, and people will bitch about that... same as if a dev butchered the 360 version, it would have some complaints.

 

 But I think someone cooked up an argument against an imaginary foe for the sake of having an argument, is how it looks from here.

I think what everyone making this argument is referring to (it seems like the ones making the argument that PS3 and PC owners complain about console exclusives are not communicating their message properly) are the PS3/PC owners who say that the 360 doesn't have any good exclusives because they are all on PC (which is false). Like I've mentioned before in this thread, the 360 does have a number of exclusives, quality ones at that. Just a bit less. PS3 has 160 true exclusives, 360 has 119 true exclusives. So the PS3 has about one-third more exclusives but with the way that fanboys talk, you'd think the PS3 had loads more. So technically the 360 has more true exclusives (119) than console exclusives (75). PS3 fanboys that say that the 360 doesn't have many quality exclusives are either ignorant or they feel that they have to make up lies to justify not getting the console (which is quite sad. If you don't want the console because you want to save money for more PS3 or PC games instead of buying another piece of hardware or you dont have the time to game on yet another platform or you really absolutely don't find any merit in any of those 119 exclusives for whatever reason, then don't get it. No one is forcing a gun to your head to get it.)

Source (for the numbers):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

 

you know, if the comparison was something like sony has 9 exclusives vs the 360's 6 exclusives, then the 1/3 is prolly not a big deal, but uh, that's 41 more, not just 3 more..... so it really is a lot more lol. ratio is not something the consumers would usually see, but rather, how many more in actual numbers, 41 is not exactly a small number when counting exclusive games.

As if 119 true exclusives is a small selection to begin with right? 41 compared to 119 is just a third. I can't believe anyone would complain about "only" 119 exclusives compared to 160. The extent to which fanboys will go is amazing.

that part is pretty absurd yes, 119 is by no means a small number and that is not an arguement that fanboys should be using, but fanboys will be fanboys. 41 more is quiet a lot more considering that you do have a lot more selection is all I'm saying. as a consumer who's also a PC gamer, I'd most likely pick the PS3 over the 360 for that reason alone since I pretty much don't play FPS on consoles, ever, unless it's beta or free =P.

The 360, even after discounting console exclusives (75 to PS3's 9), has a greater selection of games than the PS3. So since when do consumers have more choices on the PS3? 736 on 360 vs. 558 games for PS3. If you take away the console exclusive advantage, that's 112 more games. You're looking at more selection of true exclusives. But do you only play exclusives on your consoles? I doubt it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_xbox_360_games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games

As for FPS, the PS3 does have Resistance 1 + 2, Killzone 2, Socom, etc. The "shooterbox" thing doesn't fly anymore. FPS sells better on the 360. That's about it.

did you completely ignore that I'm also a PC gamer part? =P

Did you completely ignore how I excluded console exclusives (360/PC and PS3/PC) when making my point? ;)

Well, because I do pretty much play exclusives on the PS3 lol, the only multiplat I have on the PS3 are, Brutal Legend and I think Eternal Sonata(which has more content)? Though I will have Star Ocean 4 Int, Lost Planet 2 and FF13 as well next year( man it's gonna be a good year,) oh and the shittier version of Bayonetta, that game makes me wish I didn't sell my 360, they need to patch that shit. Also I'll be damned if they don't bring ToV PS3 over, I really want to play that version too.