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theprof00 on 29 December 2009
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Grimes said:
theprof00 said:

Sony owns nearly a 30% stake, so I'd say they make 2-3 pennies per disc.

Additionally you're forgetting that every BR drive has a charge of $9.50 and every BR recordable drive will run 14$.

In America alone, there were 11M BR players in July 2009, including ps3s.

From July, there have been another 2.8M ps3s sold, but I don't know how many standalones were sold in that period.

This also does not include PC drives.

Also, in the last week, 79M$ worth of movies were sold. 84% of BR movies are 29.99 and under, with 50% being 20-29.99. As an estimate I will say the average price is 25$. Dividing 79M by 25= three point something, or, 3.16M discs sold. At 3 cents per movie, Sony made 95,000$ in royalties last week.

Additionally, they've made say 3$ per player in existence, which, in America, excluding holiday standalone sales, equals 42M$ in royalties.

 

Those pennies add up. I'm astounded that they can actually make 100,000 a week doing nothing.

 

You are forgetting that the BDA is a business entity in of itself, which has its own operating expenses. They have to pay for managerial staff, R&D, marketing, licensing, collections, legal, expenses for partner meetings, etc. They probably take a big chunk of that royalty just to maintain operations.

Also, I'd like to see an source for that 30% Sony stake as I haven't seen any hard data to back that number.

The only thing you can find is that "sony doesn't even have 30% stake", which implies that it is very near 30%. 

Also, I would like to know exactly how much you think BDA requires to maintain operations. If they take, say 5 pennies from every movie sales, they made 150k last week. Average 100k a week and you're looking at 5.2M a year just on movie sales, not including blank discs, players, drives, writers, etc etc etc

Also, BDA makes about 2M$ a year just on membership fees, and the entire BDA is a consortium made up of member companies.

In my condo association, there is a yearly fee, and we all chip in to pay for extra renovations. It would seem logical that the member companies pay for a lot of the overhead already. So, I'd really like to know what kind of numbers we're talking about because, at this point that whole area of discussion is very cloudy to me.

 

UPDATE:

I've been doing some checking and found out that there are additional fees on top of per disc licensing. Totaling all costs, logo fee, AACS+formats, keys, certification, duplication, etc etc, you pay about 15k-30k$ per BR title that is released. There are about 1500 titles in existence as of Jan 2009. At 15k, that's another 22.5M in fees paid on top of per disc licensing costs.