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This site does have a problem with trolls and shills. That said this discussion is pointless for one simply unalterable fact. Sony has a problem with honesty, and more to the point they have been caught being dishonest. They have been caught red handed lying to the public. Nobody has denied this even the most ardent booster wouldn't dare say that Sony has not done that this year.

That is all the argument that needs to be made. The numbers are not legitimate, because the source is untrustworthy. They do not need to play with the numbers they are more then happy to just make them up. Seeing as the media never calls them on it what is to stop them.

Why take a pathological liar at their word. There is no point in defending or attacking the number in question. The numbers have no validity. Sony has a long way to go to be taken as credible. I do not care whether you like the PS3 or not. You have to concede that Sony has to be the least honest console manufacturer of the year, and on top of that they do not seem to be the least bit sorry. They cannot even apologize for their transgressions.