Microsoft computer accessories and Windows mobile are both struggling.

[Squilliam]

Xoj said:

Squilliam said:

jkimball said:
winmo is dead. Symbain has a huge lead due to years and years at the top. But iPhone and Rim growth will catch it. Symbain=dead as Nokia tries to support multiple platforms...

As for gaming tie in, yes Micrsoft may have to move Xbox and the entertainment division somewhere else to maintain illusion of profitability. In the last two years, higher 360 sales have led to higher losses (ie they are still losing money on each 360, despite well placed rumours to the contrary). They could throw the Live subscription revenue into the other MS Live efforts (live mail, live messenger, etc), that would make them profitable. And maybe throw Bing ad revenue into the ent and home division to keep it profitable.

Anecdotes on hardware: MSFT HW on windows7=trouble. Logitech =troublefree.

Huh?

2008 FY = $426M

2009 FY = $169M

2010 FY = $312M from one quarter.

RROD warranty more 1 billion, original Xbox more than 6 billion.

Sony Nintendo Microsoft Total
Y/E 1998 $902,811,090 $1,023,333,867 $1,926,144,957
Y/E 1999 $1,102,563,557 $1,301,350,000 $2,403,913,557
Y/E 2000 $722,738,949 $1,368,207,547 $2,090,946,497
Y/E 2001 -$449,776,290 $677,576,000 $227,799,710
Y/E 2002 $629,101,056 $895,872,180 -$1,135,000,000 $389,973,237
Y/E 2003 $935,569,253 $834,333,333 -$1,191,000,000 $578,902,586
Y/E 2004 $627,195,212 $993,161,303 -$1,337,000,000 $283,356,515
Y/E 2005 $419,888,799 $1,056,056,202 -$539,000,000 $936,945,001
Y/E 2006 $69,129,058 $774,478,055 -$1,339,000,000 -$495,392,887
Y/E 2007 -$1,970,923,859 $1,914,666,388 -$1,969,000,000 -$2,025,257,471
Y/E 2008 -$1,079,994,103 $4,322,637,887 $426,000,000 $3,668,643,783
Y/E 2009 -$577,207,240 $5,691,428,301 $169,000,000 $5,283,221,061

Y/E 10Q1 -$413,541,667 $420,843,750 $312,000,000 $319,302,083
Y/E 10Q2 -$653,333,333 $710,655,556 N/A N/A

Total
$264,220,482 $21,984,600,371 -$6,532,000,000 $15,659,498,630

Full Year Average
$110,924,623 $1,737,758,422 -$1,001,857,143 $914,270,499

Profitable Years
8 12 2 10

Non Profitable Years
4 0 6 2

Average in Loss Year
-$1,019,475,373 N/A -$1,251,666,667 -$1,260,325,179

Average in Profit Year
$676,124,622 $1,737,758,422 $333,000,000 $1,389,625,094