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stof said:
fishamaphone said:


"Responsible for a hell of a lot" and "deserves a lot of respect for it" don't *necissarily* go hand in hand. I fully recognize the former, but the latter isn't a given. Bush is a good example of someone who is "responsible for a hell of a lot," but doesn't even deserve so much as the 25% approval rate he currently sports. Kutaragi did a lot, but it's legitimate to point out that not all of it was good. He marketed two consecutive under-powered machines as over-powered machines, and got away with it. I wouldn't mark that under "good," personally.

But then again, I'm posting at 1:00 AM again... maybe ignore this post...

interesting argument so I'll bite! That analogy would work if Ken was responsible for the 3D0, Atari Jaguar and the Virtual Boy. The long and short of it is that under him, Sony launched the two most succesfull home consoles ever. Bush launched the U.S.'s second least succesful War ever (I mean of course the war of 1812, this is tied with Vietnam so far). However, that is for an off topic thread. A horrible, horrible flame ridden off topic thread. Politics belong everywhere except internet forums.

Bleh, getting too political for my blood even with that.  I prefer my video games kept as seperate as possible from politics.  I agree with fishamaphone.  Kutaragi got away with selling the weakest system in 2 generations as the most powerful (prior to launch of course).  It worked until his growing megalomania caused him to push a $600 system as cheap, then people starting realizing his was lying about aspects of the PS3 also.  That lead to the first negative media environment Sony had to deal with in 12 years.

Well, to continue the Bush/Kutaragi analogy (not in a political debate kind of way just illustrate a point in a manner already in use) just because I may think Bush did great things his first 5 years doesn't mean the mistake upon mistake of his last 3 can be ignored.  Same with Kutaragi, just because some may think he did great things with the PS1 & 2 doesn't mean the potential disaster that the PS3 may become can be ignored.  With both we'll need more time to fully judge their legacy, which means neither can be called great or a failure at the moment (probably never will be, few fall outright into either category).