US Senate Passes Obama health bill

[Kasz216]

Jackson5050 said:

Kasz216 said:Something like 10 million people who qualify for Medicaid are currently not on Medicaid.

When you actually do the numbers on who the uninsured are... you could accomplish just as much for the people who want insurance by a medicaid information campaign, a slight medicaid expansion and a few minor laws.

Without forcing a large number of people who don't have insurance via personal choice.

If you actually go over that ~35 million number(since they are removing the illegal aliens) by looking at the actual report you'll be surprised how many of those people actually need help getting insurance.  Not that many.

A LOT of it is medcaid under report,  a lot of it is people in the 3rd and 4th quartiles, a lot of it is people who qualify for medicaid but don't take it... etc. The numbers are very easy to breakdown, it doesn't take more then 15 minutes or so.  I've already done it on these boards once before.  You should check it out.

Yes, that is a major reason why ~4% of legal residents will not have health coverage after the bill takes effect. ~60% of those eligible for Medicaid currently do not sign up and some will not sign up after the bill. However, that is accounted for in the estimated ~18-24 million Americans who will remain w/out health care after the bill takes effect. The number who gain insurance does not include those who are currently eligible for Medicaid but do not sign up for it thereby "cooking" the numbers. Depending on the version of the bill, a large number of those who will gain coverage do so from the expansion of Medicaid. Another significant portion will gain coverage from receiving subsidies through the exchange(s)-up to 400% of the poverty level. Granted, not every person who gains coverage will be someone who needed help. Yes, I know the numbers are easy to break down. You are not the only person to do so. Frankly, I am surprised to hear some state that not many of the people receiving coverage under the bill actually require help. I have heard/read many statements about the bill, but I have never heard/read that.

 

All you need to do is breakdown the number of the uninsured yourself.

The ones in the poorest demographics mostly qualify for mediaid, a large number of the demographics are in the Top and second quartiles.

I've already broken down the numbers on the board once before, and i'd rather not go through it again.

Needless to say, the number of people who really need help is less then 10 million.  Possibily less then 5... possibly even... less then 2 million.