US Senate Passes Obama health bill

[Kasz216]

Jackson5050 said:

Kasz216 said:What I don't understand....

If there is no Public Option....

what the hell is costing so much? I mean what needs 700+ Million dollars?  Creating an organization to find people who don't buy health insurance? It's a silly, silly bill, both worse then the status quo and an actual full out universal healthcare.

Espiecally when you look at who that 36 million is.  Not to many of them are actually people who can't afford healthcare, a lot are just people who don't want it.

What is costing so much? Well, there is the expansion of medicaid. There is also expanded coverage for children. There are the subsidies that help people obtain insurance through the health exchange(s).

Actually, that is not true. Many of the people who will obtain health care under either plan (House or Senate's) will be those who do not receive it from employers and cannot afford it individually. This includes the expansion of Medicaid and those who will purchase insurance from the exchange.

Something like 10 million people who qualify for Medicaid are currently not on Medicaid.

When you actually do the numbers on who the uninsured are... you could accomplish just as much for the people who want insurance by a medicaid information campaign, a slight medicaid expansion and a few minor laws.

Without forcing a large number of people who don't have insurance via personal choice.

If you actually go over that ~35 million number(since they are removing the illegal aliens) by looking at the actual report you'll be surprised how many of those people actually need help getting insurance.  Not that many.

A LOT of it is medcaid under report,  a lot of it is people in the 3rd and 4th quartiles, a lot of it is people who qualify for medicaid but don't take it... etc.

 

The numbers are very easy to breakdown, it doesn't take more then 15 minutes or so.  I've already done it on these boards once before.  You should check it out.