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AdventWolf said:
Farmageddon said:
I don't get the morality issue whenever you pirate something you'd never buy otherwise, no matter the reason.

I mean, how can it be morally wrong to get for free something someone else did and wants money from when it's actually doing them absolutely no harm? It's more like the other way around, actually, if you ask me. See, you make a game. Now there's this guy who's never gonna buy your game, but he does want to play it and has the means to do so, without doing you or your product no harm. Would you really deny it? Why? How can that be moral?

Hell, we are talking about a business already, bringing morality to the table makes no sense to begin with.

Yeah you're right, the pirates wouldn't buy it in the first place because they can illegally download it for FREE. It is a choice.
Some people never buy any games and pirate them all. Are you saying that if it was impossible to pirate the games then they wouldn't buy any?
They are not entitled to something even if they weren't going to buy it anyway.
I don't understand how people try to justify stealing. I have pirated some songs, do I think what  did was right? No because it's ILLEGAL.

Well, about the bolded, I'm not a native english speaker, so I may have phrased it wrong, but I believe the "otherwise" in "whenever you pirate something you'd never buy otherwise" means I'm talking about anyone who pirates something they wouldn't buy even if they couldn't pirate, doesn't it? That's what I was talking about.

So, yeah, if you pirate something you'd buy otherwise or, specially, if you actually pay for pirated content, that does make a difference. Otherwise, it makes no difference at all, and that's my point. Actually, whenever you pirate something you'd never buy (again, no matter why, you may even love the game, but have absolutely no money for that), there's a chance you'll talk about it and show it to friends and what not, so you're actually spreading good word of moth, and may benefit the developer after all, even if in a small way, but that's beyond the point I was making.

I can't see how you can be stealing when you're not taking anything away either directly OR indirectly.

Edit: If piracy hurts sales so much, why doesn't PS3 games sell incredibly more than XBOX 360, Wii, DS, or even PS2/XBOX/GC/AnyOlderVideogame did?

Also, not directly related to this quote, but someone touched on porrer contrys and, really, if you had to pay five hundred dollars for a game in the US, do you think you would? It's simply not worth all that much.