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Feylic said:
slowmo said:
Feylic said:
slowmo said:
Feylic said:
NightAntilli said:
@Feylic: That's why developers put the largest files on the outside edge of the disk.. And that's also why 99% of the multiplats have faster loading on the X360. And also, if you wanna argue like that, here:

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/5399/12xdvdvsbdrs0cg.png

That graph shows that the minimum read speed is basically just a tad lower, and the maximum is way above it.. Yes, this is for 12x, since the X360 is capable of that. That does not mean all games use it, but if it's needed, they probably will. And again, even if they use 8x, the largest files are put on the outside part of the disk, and the menu files and stuff that doesn't need high read speeds are put on the inner edge. Because of this, 8x will have the advantage over 2x Blu-Ray in games.. Period.

Yea, no kidding, thats called mastering, but the fact remains that not ALL of the information can be stored at the edge of the disc, and hence, it will not always be read faster.

As for the graph, like you said it's 12X so it's pretty much useless and but the part I bolded does not work. If the game is big enough, they will use a dual layer DVD and it will be 8X, they can't just decide it will run faster at this point, it's 8, the 12 no longer matters. Because of this, over the entire size of the disc, the read speeds are quite comparable between the PS3 and 360's respective drives. PERIOD.


No, the 360 can read Dual layer DVD's at 12x, please stop spreading MikeB's fud, this has been proven wrong several times yet still people insist on spreading misinformation.  Not only that but newer drives are capable of reading single layer disks at 16x.

I have never seen anyone prove this wrong, and have read and participated in tons of threads about the subject here. If you can show me where this proof is I would like to read it.


It is quite clearly shown in the firmware that it reads dual layer at 12x, if you want to continue in ignorance thats your problem.  The burden of proof is upon you to prove your claim that the drive can only read Dual Layer at 8x which I know you cannot do.

Show me where? All the hardware specs say 12X, they say nothing about dual layer. How am I being ignorant? I asked you to show me where, I would like to learn if I am wrong, but you refuse to show me. Anyways, some quick searching found me this, though I doubt you will look at it,

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/office/optical-disk-drives/optical-disk-drives/SH-S223Q/BEBD/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec&fullspec=F

http://www.lge.com/ca_en/computer-products/optical-storage/LG-external-dvd-burner-GP08LU10.jsp

Those are two dvd drives that show the dual layer read speed is LESS than the specified read speed of the drive. Yes, it is not a 12X drive, but it gives an idea of how they work and this is much more credible than your bs.

Neither of those is the drives in the 360 and neither run custom firmaware designed for a console.  Come on where is your proof, all I say is supposition in those links with no basis of fact to prove your theory.  Like I said previously YOU made the claim of 8x read speed on DL, it's for you to prove not me.  Your "proof" isn't credible in the slightest and you're still talking bs yourself.